1909 S VDB Need Second Opinion.

I'll say F-12, choice color and surfaces for the grade.

Thanks, got it for a great deal. This will be in my collection for a very long time.

Thanks for the advice. Will do that for all my coins.

Nice coin and a great addition to your collection. Also as to which dies used. Remember your talking about something from well over 100 years ago and no one really knows what was used anywhere for anything that long ago.

Genuine, F12

Sorry..."exact"..."ain't gonna happen!"

You will find people on this forum can give as expert an opinion as any paid service (likely more consistent here though). But note that even among our experts you will see different opinions proffered.

All grades given out (by even the "professional" grading companies) are NOT a verifiable fact. The company marketing divisions have done a good job in making an awful lot of people think the company gives an exact and actual grade.

You can break a coin out of its slab, re-submit it to the same grading company, and you are never guaranteed it will get the same grade again. Their own websites will tell you grading is not a science, but an art.

This also means people will keep gambling/submitting coins (paying the companies money) hoping for a high grade. Where just one grade point high er can mean huge profits, some coins are submitted many times over until the reach that level. Companies also charge more depending on how rare the coin is, so re-submissions bring in profits to the company.

The tech has been there since the 90s to make grading a science, and all major companies once used a scientific method. But computer grading stopped b/c back then people did not trust computers. Nowadays out tech makes the 90s tech obsolete, but while grading can remain subjective, there are likely more profits to be had. This might be the hindrance to making grading a science.

I only need one of those.