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Hey Everyone! First post here. Wanted to get everyone's opinion of my raw 1932 D I just picked up. 1. Grade? 2. In your opinion is it cleaned or no? 3. Worth getting professionally graded?   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Low-VF details, definitely cleaned.  to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
08/15/2020 5:29 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes, looks cleaned. VF grade range. In my opinion, not worth sending in for grade/slabbing.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It's been cleaned within a few millimeters of its life. VF details sounds good and it's a shame a key date like that is virtually destroyed numismatically.
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New Member
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Is there anything I can do?
How much does the cleaning effect value?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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This coin was fine until it was cleaned. The job destroyed the appearance or the overall eye appeal of the coin, and is pretty much worth only silver melt value at this point. You might be lucky though because this coin is 88 years old and is a key date, as just 12% of all Washington quarters minted in 1932 came from the Denver mint Edited by Nieuw
08/15/2020 7:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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You can see parallel lines on front and back where it was scrubbed/rubbed with something. Quote:
and is pretty much worth only silver melt value at this point. Just my opinion, but I am not sure I agree its only worth melt value. Its still a key date. If you cannot get your money back, I would suggest listing it as cleaned on ebay and there likely will be, I would guess, a lot more than melt paid for it. Some people are only hole fillers while others are more interested into the hobby and are after quality specimens. Its a hobby and to each his own. Even though I have a really nice 32-D, I would be thrilled to find something like yours for just melt value. Edited by Earle42
08/15/2020 7:43 pm
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Rest in Peace
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To CCF , I would try to return it . Harshly cleaned .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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If you can't return it, then I'd guess the market value would be half to two-thirds of the price of a no-problem specimen.
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New Member
United States
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Thanks everyone for replying. Couple more questions
Since I am new to collecting, what gives it away that it was cleaned? The scratched almost wirebrushed look? Or the color? Was it chemically cleaned? would like to know for future reference.
Also, since it is such a rare coin, if passed down to kids/grandkids (lots of time) would it eventually be "uncleaned" again from new patina? or will someone always be able to it was cleaned?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Since I am new to collecting, what gives it away that it was cleaned? The scratched almost wirebrushed look?
Yes...as I mentioned above. Parallel lines are typically left by someone rubbing the coin. When severe lines are left is can be from an actual wire brush. Quote:
Or the color? Yes. If the picture is showing an accurate representation of the coloring, it looks like a coin that has been cleaned (likely a chemical) to the point it has a dull and lifeless finish. A coin, when first pressed, has had the surface metals pushed into the die and results in a micro-dimpled surface which reflects light with a depth and color that disappears with circulation wear. Circulation actually removes those micro-bumps and the light reflects from a much smoother surface - the cartwheel affect of luster is gone. Quote:
Was it chemically cleaned? If the lighting in the pic is showing what the surface looks like, then yes, it could have been dipped into a cleaner like E=Z-est for too long. This product removes a microscopic layer from the surface metal. If done properly then the surface can still give some depth of luster. But when over dipped, the flat, lifeless look is seen. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2Edited by Earle42
08/15/2020 9:33 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Your term "wirebrushed" captures it well. The surfaces are pasty and unnatural-looking.
The appearance of such a harsh cleaning will NEVER change appreciably over time.
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Bedrock of the Community
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BTW - here is a link to a fake 1932-D side by side with a real one. I post this b/c someone brought up the issue of the weight of yours. I believe yours is legit: http://goccf.com/t/136142How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2Edited by Earle42
08/15/2020 9:37 pm
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New Member
United States
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Thank you Earle42 and CoinFrog! What should this 1932-d weigh? Online it says 6.2-6.25, so it would prob be a little less because of the cleaning. I'll weigh it when I get home.
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