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 Posted 12/02/2008  4:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ShelleyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My 94 year old grandfather is visiting me and just showed me a tattered old coin purse that his father always carried. Inside was a variety of US coins from the early 1800's---many tarnished and very difficult to read. Some were drilled as if they had been part of a necklace at one point. Most appear to be one cent coins from 1813-1817 although there is also an 1817 dime. While I am not a coin collector, my grandfather was interested in learning more about these coins. Can anyone help?

Thanks for your feedback!
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Hello ShellyB
If you can post pictures of the coins I'm sure the people on this site could identify all of them and give you an opinion as to grade and value. We'd love to see them!
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We'd be glad to help. Just provide some pictures.

It sounds like you have some old Large Cents. Condition affects price greatly. From the sounds of it, these coins are what we call culls (low grade) that are not worth that much. Still cull large cents are worth maybe $5 maybe more or less depending on how severe the damage.

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If you are interested in learning about the coins and want reference material for your grandfather, you can purchase a copy the the Official RedBook a Guide to United States coins at most good bookstores- Barnes & Noble- Borders etc. or your local library may have a copy.
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 Posted 12/02/2008  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zoombuff222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...but we still want photos, even if you pick up some reference books!
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It would be fun to see some pics if possible. There are some scarcer coins from that period, irregardless of the grade.
Of course, the sentimental value is very important too.
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The dime bears further looking - none were minted between 1815-1819, nor were Half Dimes.
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shelly
welcome to the forum.
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I see nothing in his description to dismiss these coins as culls, with the possible exception of the coins with holes in them. But he makes no mention of which or how many are holed. (And some coins even with holes can have value depending on the date and rarity.

Like Superdave said, there is no 1817 dime, so we need more info on that.

One bit of advise Shelly, DON'T clean them.

Other than that all I can say is that we need a better list of what is there, grades and/or pictures.
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I'm with Conder101, don't clean them because you will destroy their value. Try to get some photos/scans of the coins and we'll help you from there.
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 Posted 12/07/2008  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ShelleyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your quick response! I am taking Grandpa back to NY tomorrow and will enlist the help of my dad to get the photos of the coins posted. His camera has better resolution than mine! We have not (and will not based on several people's advice) cleaned the coins. I will do some rubbings from them too, as that may give better detail since they are very dirty.

On closer inspection of the dime (wish I had a magnifying glass) it may be 1813...not 1817. The side with the date has a unidentifiable profile and the reverse has a wreath of sorts with the words "ONE DIME" centered one word over the other in the middle of the wreath. But that being said, I'll have Dad post pictures for review.

Thanks again for the feedback. Grandpa seems really excited about the prospect of learning more about them.
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NEVER clean your coins. It will instantly chop the value of them in half sometimes more. If you have to get some "grime" off of them, a clean cloth just long enough to get the layer off. That's all. Do not continue to rub. If it's just dirt, rinse off in warm water only and pat dry with a clean cloth, then let air dry. The Red Book of US coins is a great guide. It will show you the different U.S. issues as well as Colonial Coins and Territorial Gold coins of the Gold Rush. In order to better evaluate the collection, try to take the best photos possible. There is lots of great advice here at the CCF. and have fun!
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The coins that our grandparents owned and give to us are worth far more than any book ever says. I have a collection of coins from England, France, and Belgium that my grandfather brought back from WWI. I gave one to my cousin, knowing that it was a good luck charm that would guarantee his safe return from Iraq, which it did. Now two generations of our family have carried that coin safely out of a war zone.
These coins are worth more to me than any shiny pieces of gold or silver that I bought with money.
When you mentioned that many of your grandfather's coins were either tarnished, difficult to read, or "holed", it makes it sound like they might not have a whole lot of "book" value. Of course, rare dates or varieties can be worth a lot of money even if they have some kind of damage.
I think many of us are interested in the dime you mentioned. The U.S. dimes didn't start using a wreath with "one dime" inside it until the "Seated Liberty" series in 1837. Prior to that, dimes had an image of a large eagle on the reverse. The obverse of the 1837 & later dimes have a full sized figured of liberty sitting down. Prior to that, the "Bust" dime had a close up profile of Miss Liberty's face. If you have a close up of a face, combined with a "wreath" reverse, then we'll have to consult Dr. Judd's pattern book to see exactly what you have.
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