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1949-S Lincoln Wheat Cent- DDO-001 FS-101 Stage A

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Cherry picked this one last week for $6. It's a nice upgrade from the VF example I previously found In a bag. Strong die scratch protruding from the E of LIBERTY and scratches under the chin match to Stage A so that's a nice plus. Bad news is it was shipped in a small plastic bag which may or may not cause PVC exposure to the coin. I'll probably acetone dip this one soon to ensure that it doesn't progress anymore. Thoughts?

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http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...9SDDO001.htm

1949-S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent--DDO-001-FS-101-Stage-A
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 Posted 02/08/2021  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I figured out how it could of happened. (The creation of that die) But nobody probably want to hear the story.
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 Posted 02/08/2021  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fefimo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually do. I don't post much but I try to read a lot and your explanations of how things happen are fantastic.
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C'mon @coop--help us learn something today!

I think that an acetone bath is a good idea. Too bad it likely won't do anything for that thumbprint on the rev.
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Great pickup!

This is listed as a Class III doubled die. Many believe that the doubling on the 4 is from a 1948 date, which has a taller 4.

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 Posted 02/08/2021  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice example CH27. Keep up the hunting. Acetone for sure if there is PVC. Got to get it off before it eats into the surface.
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Thanks all! Acetone dip should be done in the next few days if all goes well.

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Someone restart coop. I think he's caught in some kind of memory leak error. So try a soft boot first and if he doesn't give with the details, unplug him for 10 minutes and see if that works.
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Well I thought that the 1948 hub and 1949 hub was similar but different. So I thought they may have used two years on this die. When you look at the first three devices, you can see how they are alike, but yet they are different:
1949-S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent--DDO-001-FS-101-Stage-A
Note how the '1's are slightly different, If they are used together, it creates the differences and both at the same time.
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Same on the '9's.
1949-S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent--DDO-001-FS-101-Stage-A
Same on the '4's.
With the last digit removed, it seems that this could be possible to create the 1949-4/4 DDO. But it is not just the '4' that is affected, all the first three digits are affected.
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I remember your theory on this! I think it's quite plausible given the evidence. If your theory turns out to be true, would this no longer be classified as a DDO or just classified as a different class of Doubled die.

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Even if my theory is correct, it would still be a legit DDO. The 1942/1 Mercury dimes and the 1943/2 nickels were a similar situation.
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That's what I thought. It would be neat if your theory is proven correct. Thanks!

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VarietyVista, Wexler, and CopperCoins all agree with "Coop's" theory. Listed as a Class III doubled die and notes the 1949/1948 hub.
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Cool! I hadn't known it was accepted yet. I wonder if the next CPG will include this change or not.

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Here is how far back this was when I still was working in the sugject:
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