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 Posted 02/12/2021  3:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Algot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Who would I send these off to get attributed. There are plenty of people and businesses who offer the service. Who do you suggest?


This is a smooth rotunda:
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This is a ribbed rotunda:
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 Posted 02/12/2021  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Christian18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything special with the rotunda on that nickel. You might just be seeing the result of a weak strike on that area of the coin.
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What years are these two? Could just be a subtle design change or a weak strike as mentioned before.
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They are both the same year and mint mark out of the same roll and there are multiples of each. However, numerically, there is more of one than the other. That is why I'm inclined to attempt attribution.
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Well chances are it is damage. It is raised the highest on the coin. Or it could be a Grease Fill in the die. Either way they are just face value coins. So no need to submit the coin.
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I believe the difference between the two so-called smooth and ribbed domes are too trivia to even mention them .
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I believe that is due to a slightly weaker strike. It's not a variety.
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I can tell it's a more recent nickel by the FS initials. As far as I know, there were no design changes or modifications in the more recent reverse.
I think it is either a weak strike or grease build up on the die in that area. Certainly not worth spending money on for some attribution.
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Who would I send these off to get attributed. There are plenty of people and businesses who offer the service. Who do you suggest?

Got any names? I've never heard of anybody attributing/grading "Smooth dome" or "Ribbed dome".
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To me, as inexperienced in these things, I wonder why I would have multiple examples of them both within the same roll. It's not like I have only one or two examples of one or the other which might signify of an exceptional, or lone example of a built up grease strike, a strong strike, or light strike.

Even with the 1922 Peace dollar, you have a strong reverse trike variety as well as a weak one.
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I wonder why I would have multiple examples of them both within the same roll.


I think it's because all the dies striking these coins at the mint at the same time eventually all get dumped together in a bin. Those struck with a worn die, (for lack of other words) will produce coins with the same worn design. Those struck with dies that have sharp details will strike coins that are sharp.
They all are mixed and travel together in bulk until they are eventually put into coin rolling machines that have 40 nickels worth $2.00 a roll at the bank.

It's like getting a bag of m&m's, some are red and some are green or yellow etc.
All the red ones came from a red color coating batch and they all get mixed together in the end.
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To heck with the dome. My attention is drawn to the FS including the portico's.
Perhaps not even a business strike. It appears satin, not quite proof. But be assured, I am no expert. Only an observer.
IMO , this at least must be a very early strike on this die. Again, only IMO.
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Without the year, I can't help. An obverse side would be helpful at this point.
Satin strikes are on the 2006-2010 P and D nickels. It would have to have a 'S' mintmark to be a proof nickel.
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TNG: Isn't what you described the definition of a variety?

All I've been attempting to do is get a name of someone, or some people which you guys trust for attribution of Nickels. I understand that there are a variety of opinions and perspectives which each person may or may not hold. Having discovered multiple Morgan dollar VAMS, myself (see 1921 P VAM 96,99,100,104,105,106,and 108 to name a few (and I do have others of different dates and mints (not to mention the top pop Zerbe die (1921 P VAM 47) on the SSDC website))), my inclination is to see if there's something here.

Wexler has a someone who he refers to when attributing nickels, so, it seems, that I'm relegated to using that one since no one else offered me anyone else.

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate everyone's concern about me wasting my money in attributing something which they've determined is not worth wasting my money over. I get it. However, when a new variety, or error gets designated, that designation didn't exist before the coin was attributed. Not to mention, if the coin has only face value, disclosing the date and mint location is irrelevant.

I am of the opinion that if a coin, any coin, has a variety, or error, that coin's error, or variety is independent of the date or mint from which it was produced. Similarly, if a coin does not have an error or variety, giving a date and the mint produced will not bestow upon it an error or variety.

However, what full disclosure may do (AND I'm NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS BEING PRACTICED HERE) is give some unscrupulous pretender the ability to tell you that a coin has no variety, or error while gaining all the information needed to find one, get it attributed, and take your credit for finding it. I speak from experience.

There is a joy and satisfaction of finding a new variety and/or error...especially your first one. Again, I speak from experience. I would not want that denied to anyone.

Again, I am NOT saying that is happening here, but we must all guard our claims, because there will always be those who prefer to be claim jumpers. No, here, odds are that they won't become rich, but they will steal your joy, satisfaction, and what is rightfully yours.

If you think you have something, by all means get an opinion from those who may know more, but always use that as an additional filter and not as the final decision. If you still feel that you have something even after utilizing your due diligence, then spend the $5 or $10 to have it attributed. We've all blown more on less. It's better to have lost $10 on being wrong than to save $10 and let someone else get the recognition which you did all the work for and should have received.

I'm just saddened that this entire thread is about me getting a name, and out of all the days this thread has been published, I've yet to receive any. To the contrary, I have received numerous requests to disclose the date and mint mark, which is irrelevant if there's nothing there.
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Well chances are it is damage. It is raised the highest on the coin. Or it could be a Grease Fill in the die. Either way they are just face value coins. So no need to submit the coin.

If coop says it's just worth face value, I've found, through the years, his knowledge is top shelf, and you can take that to the bank! If in doubt, take your coins into a local coin shop for their opinion.

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