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New To This But Need Help To Identify 1922 No D Lincoln Cent

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This is my first post so thank you to all anyone who can help me with this. I have a 1922 no D Lincoln Cent. I need help identifying the correct die variety. I believe it to be a FS-401 (FS-013.2),RB per PCGS variety. The identifiers I have researched seem to match but I'm by no means not an expert so bear with me. No sign of any D mark of course, the second 2 in date being finer than the first, the word "trust" finer then the "in god we", and lastly a very strong reverse.

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Thinking this is not genuine.



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It does not match any of the known die pairings.
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Struck counterfeit
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Here is a FS-401 from PCGS:
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/13511559
From this point, you can enlarge the image.

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For this particular coin to be considered "real" it needs to be authenticated by PCGS or NGC.
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Just looks too "nice" to be legit
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Definitely counterfeit. Not even close to any of the four well-established die pairs.
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Newbegining take the Coinfrog conclusion.

Then thing: The poor president seem to come from a long war, but date and letters are nice and in the place. Then the other side of the coin is almost untouched, for this age of the coin in circulation will be 99.999 % impossible.
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Thank you for you comments and opinions. They say there were 4 die varieties But I can only see that there was three. Ever example is slightly different from what I have seen. Yes lincold is a little rough but being the being its one of the highest points on the coin is there no possible way that the date could still be correct as far as condition. As far as there identifiers from what I have red the second 2 is indeed finer the the first. Trust is in better shape than in god we except the t and r are slightly fuzzy. Having said that every other example when the weak d finally was not visible the reverse on the other dies were never sharp. Now if the d was removed and lincold is in that condition than why the strong reverse. I am not disagreeing with anyone but I have examined this coin under a micro scope and the is not one trace of there ever being a d nor is there a single tool mark or worn area where it should be. I am just saying this ti try and understand better then short explanations which I do appreciate but I would like to know more factors that if they did remove the D and the Lincoln qa was like that then why the strong reverse? I just am trying to be certain if it's worth the chance in grading before I send back the coin. If you think is absolutely not genuine could you be more specific. Thank n you all for taking the time to reply. Also if the markers you say are not correct could please tell me what they are because must be researching different material than you. Thanks again
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Not an expert by any means...but the L doesn't butt up against the rim...so it can't be the desirable no D die pair #2.
Still a good looking coin...but if paid No D die #2 money for it...you might want to reconsider your purchase.
Thanks for sharing and pretty good pictures for a newer member!
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Likely a struck counterfeit rather than a removed mintmark. If it were genuine it would have to be die pair 2 because of the strong reverse. But the numbers "192" and "IN GOD WE" are much sharper than you would expect with that die pair, and as @smat45 said, the L is separated from the rim. Clearly not a genuine 1922 no D. I would return it if I were you.
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This is 100% a counterfeit. Look how LIBERTY looks. Look at TRUST and the date. None of it is correct. Hope you didn't buy it as the variety.
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I hope this is allowed? From the original, and I'm learning. The letters look terrible, bend and distorted.

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maybe fake, but I would have it graded then you would know for sure. worst case,you would have a nice example that is documented
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