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Valued Member
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 Anyone familiar with chop marks, does this example look like in came from Asia?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Doesn't look Asian to me. Well, at least not like a Chinese language character.
Edited by Coinfrog
04/19/2021 10:30 am
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Valued Member
Canada
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Due to the flattening of the eagles wing on the reverse I would think it may be a counterstamp punched into the obverse rather than a carved out symbol....I'll stick around to see what others think about this one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Is it raised or incuse? It looks raised to me and the damage on the reverse seems like it could have been holed and then the decorative thing inserted. But that would be a lot of work, for what?
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Due to the flattening of the eagles wing on the reverse I would think it may be a counterstamp punched into the obverse  Too bad, it would be a nice coin if it wasn't for that. Edited by jimbucks
04/19/2021 11:30 am
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Yes interesting counterstamp of some sort. Maybe a chop mark, but I agree that it doesn't jump out as being Chinese. Maybe @exoguy will weigh in as this is a specialty. Here is a somewhat close example that I found from a previous post: http://goccf.com/t/126486&whichpage=23#2222843"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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It looks like a decorative punch was used. It does not appear to be a Asian chop mark. When the US was sending Trade dollars to China in the 1870's, the Chinese were selective on what coins they would accept in trade. There were a few Seated coins that got mixed in, but unlikely a Capped Bust half dollar would have been used or accepted. Edited by Slider23
04/19/2021 11:48 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, that would have been a fish out of water.
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Valued Member
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I have been scouring the internet and was wondering if anyone knows of any online database for world chop marks and counter stamps? From my search, it doesn't seem like there is any online collection of images of all known authenticated chop marks. Is there anyone here who could prove me wrong?
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Zooming in on the reverse I can go along with kbbplls opinion of this being a holed pieces. "but that would be a lot of work, for what?" If the repair had been done 100 year or more back...what else did they have to do?...  |
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I was just reading a link about chopmarks on all sorts of coins. very interesting about the different kinds of marks, even some in relief. I wonder if it could be a Japanese mum?. Anyway I did a duckduckgo search and spotted the info on a place called chopmarks.blogspot. Don't know if the forum will allow me to post the link but I will try. https://chopmarks.blogspot.com/2012...less-or.html |
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Also check this site under the world coins category because I just a a discussion about this on 8 Reale coins. Look for the member swamperbob. He may be able to answer your questions. I found him on the topic 1797 8 reale.
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@MisterT I also considered it could be a Japanese mum, but it seems the Japanese government didn't make stamps in this design to the best of my knowledge.
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United States
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Sorry, that is not a chopmark. If it was, this would be a valuable coin!
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IMHO, this appears to be a silversmith's touchmark, being a floral design of sorts, a rosette. American silversmiths applied fancy marks, stampings, like this so as to rival European counterparts. While these marks may have some hidden meaning for the smith, like when he made an article, they added a sense of class, speciality, to a product. It's possibly noteworthy that this touchmark is hosted on a silver coin, as to say a copper large cent. This coin may have once been destined for a silversmith's melting pot. There are any number of reasons why this c/s was applied. This touchmark could potentially be attributed to a particular silversmith. The trick would be to find a known silversmth's c/s on a silver spoon or a coin that's accompanied by a match to this touchmark. Offhand, I don't recall seeing a comparable touchmark. Quote:
Sorry, that is not a chopmark. If it was, this would be a valuable coin! @ silver_planchet: What makes a chopmark valuable .... say, in comparison to a c/s? Edited by ExoGuy
06/05/2025 12:15 pm
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