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Help Needed With A Heavily Worn Coin, King George III Maybe? (Id: 1858 Prof. Holloway Token)

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 Posted 04/25/2021  09:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Wraakneming1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello

I was given this coin as they couldn't identify it. Its 35x2mm and seems to be either copper/bronze. It has a little space for the year like Farthings do, so I'm leaning towards it being a European Coin. I'm thinking it might be King George III who is the bust.

As it's heavily worn I'm not having any luck in getting a concrete identification.

Tails: (has a little space like Farthings)
Help-Needed-With-A-Heavily-Worn-Coin,-King-George-III-Maybe?-Id:-1858-Prof.-Holloway-Token

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Help-Needed-With-A-Heavily-Worn-Coin,-King-George-III-Maybe?-Id:-1858-Prof.-Holloway-Token

Any help would be appreciated.
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 Posted 04/25/2021  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF!

It looks like this token: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces18017.html

I'm thinking yours is dated 1858.
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04/25/2021 10:40 am
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Good job! Was driving me a little nuts.
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Thank you Numisma!
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 Posted 04/30/2021  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, a Holloways token, with the typical corrosion seen on Australasian examples.

Several barrels of Holloways tokens were on board the Dunbar when it sank off Sydney Heads in 1857. Some barrels were recovered in the weeks following the shipwreck and the tokens put into circulation (the colony being desperate for small change of any kind), but even that brief time spent submerged in salt water caused some corrosion to the pure copper tokens. Other barrels broke apart in the wreck, and tokens continued to be washed up on the nearby shore for years afterwards. This piece has both wear and significant corrosion and is likely one of those "beach finds".

If you have a Holloways token and it does not show any sign of corrosion, it was most likely a token that saw circulation in Britain or North America, rather than Australia.

Ass a historical aside: Holloways Pills were the "Coca Cola" of the mid 19th century. "Professor" Holloway (not a real professor) was one of the world's first mass-marketeers, selling his snake-oil pills and ointments world-wide. Chemical analysis of surviving Holloways pills show them to be made of sugar, charcoal dust, and traces of herbal extracts: aloe, myrrh, and saffron. While not actually harmful, none of these ingredients were capable of providing the multitude of medicinal benefits the advertisements claimed for the pills.
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Holloway penny, solely due to size, agree with everything Sap says.



Good to see another Kiwi here.
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@Sap - Thanks for info on the Dunbar. I detected and dug a Holloway's token from an old house site in Brisbane a few months ago. Interesting story and may explain how it got there.
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