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Edited by Milad_so7575
06/30/2021 12:11 am
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Very nice photos. Not seeing anything other than minor DDD-die deterioration doubling. John1  |
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This is going to be interesting... I clearly see split serifs in "G" of "God" and the "s" of "Trust". I do see three distinct images in some devices. I suspect that there will be a number of calls for MD. Your lead photo is probably your most ambigous. That will form the basis of a number of answers. I suspect many people will not look at the rest of the photos before giving an opinion. MD is a "push" on the devices and there should be no doubling on the leading edge. IT should all be on the trailing edge(s). Seeing a doubled image on both the leading and trailing edges is common with die deteriation doubling, but I don't see that to be the case here. It is also possible to have both a DD and MD on the same coin. In fact it is probably more common than we think. Because of the split serifs in at least two devices, I'm going with this being, at least, a DDOGood luck! |
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Could we see full (large and sharp) photos of the coin's obverse and reverse? Wondering about the emergence of a ridge ring--a sign of Die Deterioration. Thanks. |
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Yes absolutely I will upload more photos in couple of hours, The example photos from the coppercoins.com matches all the details of this coin however you can clearly see triple die on my coin, I also matched the few die markers I found. http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds |
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Edited by Milad_so7575
06/29/2021 3:41 pm
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So VV and Wexler don't have this listed, and while CopperCoins does have a listing, 1958P-1DO-001, it's described as "A light spread can be seen on the TRU of TRUST". Looking at the OP's coin for just the described area I don't see any spread on TRU. I do see some DDD on all of IGWT, most notable on the G, for instance, but absent the spread on TRU as indicated put me down for a no, unfortunately. |
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@hgk3 Like it mentions it is a very light spread and from the doubling that's the only thing visible on that coin go in the die stage. This coin does have that spread as well. In the images you couldn't see it cause of the microscope LED reflecting it, I just had to give the microscope a tiny angle to be able to capture it.  |
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The areas marked in black are where the die has started to wear out and metal is pushing towards the outer edges or forming halo around the devices. The red arrows are where doubling would be present in the copper coins DDO that was linked earlier.  Good job on the close up photos, BTW. |
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I agree it is just die wear. The strong field lines are the first clue. But it is probably not the first polishing. The devices are moving towards the rim direction. So it is not a DDO or DDR. |
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Thank you all for your input, as I said the microscopes LED creates a reflection and that doesn't mean what I see is not there, I used a different lens to show you all this is that same coin! I sewer you all only know DDD and MD and that's about it lol  This coin will be graded at NGC in couple of days :) Edited by Milad_so7575
06/30/2021 12:12 am
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Also just so you know I have 1941 DDO, 1955 DDO, 1963 DDO, 1969s DDO and every other year you can imagine, when I was a bank teller every single Minute I found I searched thorough rolls. So yeah tell me DDD and MD again! |
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Please let us know what NGC says by posting a full slab photo front and back. John1 |
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Please take a look at the photos and let me know what you think ?! You said Please...and folks here told you. Quote: So yeah tell me DDD and MD again! Soooo...you're telling us? Ok...gotcha   smat |
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So in your book, this one is a doubled die:  It is just die wear. |
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Posted 06/29/2021 12:30 pm
