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One of these is a counterfeit. Please note top, middle or bottom coin for your counterfeit selection. If you know why, please do not reveal. I will post results in 24 hours.

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No pics are showing up on my end
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No pics to be seen on my screen yet.

Cheap ways to pick a counterfeit-:
1. Comparative visual inspection with known genuine coin - need pictures of both, but there are some good fakes out there, accurately copied from genuine coins. Best to have both in hand, and closely compare together in hand with 10X loupe.
With ancient milled and hammered coins, check for independently provable provenance - not just someone's say-so. Check data bases for fake coins of same type.
2. test for weight.
3. Comparative ping tone test against known coin of exact same module.

Tests 2 and 3 most effective when done in combination. Applicable for modern machine made coins.


I would really like to see the other sides of these coins to confirm my finding before posting my decision
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Now I see them!

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Second coin. What immediately caught my eye was the detail in the feathers, which was significantly different in picture two than in either the first or third picture.
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Would appear to be the middle one, but I'm not too familiar with these.
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Middle one looks so crudely struck-gotta be that one
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I believe the top coin is the counterfeit.
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Too easy.
Number 2.
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I don't see anything obvious wrong with any of them. I suspect the circulated look of the middle coin is a red herring. I have a suspicion the bottom coin is counterfeit, but I'll hold off on giving my reasoning for now.
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Gotta go with the middle one. I don't like it.
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#2 It's the lettering as well as the eagle's breast feathers that just don't look right, the lettering is too squat and compressed, the feather detail is just wrong. Also the color seems off when compared next to other similar yet good coins.
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The second one. The lettering, poor details, and overall surface quality gives it away for me.
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I'll say the middle one as well, but that's more of an instinctive choice than an educated guess.
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Middle. Wing feather detail, pot metal surface appearance and red goober treatment imitating ageing.

The third coin looks to have some damage, maybe a chop mark. The top one looks like it got dished by a woodworker's gouge. No self-respecting counterfeiter would try to sell coins as damaged as these.

I'm not in the market for any of them.
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Middle for me.
Lack of claw details. Weak and misshapen serifs. Head feathers {which would be white on actual bald eagle) are different and look more like lines. Surface of middle one does not look like genuine US silver coins.
Denticles look shorter and somewhat beaded rather than piano key-like.
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