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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Edited by Slider23 07/02/2021 11:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No pics are showing up on my end
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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No pics to be seen on my screen yet.
Cheap ways to pick a counterfeit-: 1. Comparative visual inspection with known genuine coin - need pictures of both, but there are some good fakes out there, accurately copied from genuine coins. Best to have both in hand, and closely compare together in hand with 10X loupe. With ancient milled and hammered coins, check for independently provable provenance - not just someone's say-so. Check data bases for fake coins of same type. 2. test for weight. 3. Comparative ping tone test against known coin of exact same module.
Tests 2 and 3 most effective when done in combination. Applicable for modern machine made coins.
I would really like to see the other sides of these coins to confirm my finding before posting my decision
Edited by sel_69l 07/03/2021 01:02 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
United States
485 Posts |
Second coin. What immediately caught my eye was the detail in the feathers, which was significantly different in picture two than in either the first or third picture.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
12477 Posts |
Would appear to be the middle one, but I'm not too familiar with these.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
878 Posts |
Middle one looks so crudely struck-gotta be that one
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New Member
United States
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I believe the top coin is the counterfeit.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
599 Posts |
Too easy. Number 2.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I don't see anything obvious wrong with any of them. I suspect the circulated look of the middle coin is a red herring. I have a suspicion the bottom coin is counterfeit, but I'll hold off on giving my reasoning for now.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Gotta go with the middle one. I don't like it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 #2 It's the lettering as well as the eagle's breast feathers that just don't look right, the lettering is too squat and compressed, the feather detail is just wrong. Also the color seems off when compared next to other similar yet good coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The second one. The lettering, poor details, and overall surface quality gives it away for me.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll say the middle one as well, but that's more of an instinctive choice than an educated guess.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3343 Posts |
Middle. Wing feather detail, pot metal surface appearance and red goober treatment imitating ageing.
The third coin looks to have some damage, maybe a chop mark. The top one looks like it got dished by a woodworker's gouge. No self-respecting counterfeiter would try to sell coins as damaged as these.
I'm not in the market for any of them.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 07/03/2021 09:35 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Middle for me. Lack of claw details. Weak and misshapen serifs. Head feathers {which would be white on actual bald eagle) are different and look more like lines. Surface of middle one does not look like genuine US silver coins. Denticles look shorter and somewhat beaded rather than piano key-like.
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