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1945-D Walker

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Unfortunate scratch on eagle, and hits on obverse left field near 9 o'clock.

Thanks for looking at this pretty lady.

1945-D-Walker

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 Posted 01/07/2009  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another beautiful Walker..

I would say looks AU-58 to me., even with the scratch, very nice strike.
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I agree it's looks AU-58 to me also.
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The slight discoloration at Liberty's breast and the eagle's upper leg looks like rub, just enough to drop it out of mint state. The nicks aren't severe enough to get a "no grade" result from a grading service. I agree with AU-58.
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Hmmm...I can't see the wear in those locations. I'll stare at the coin some more. I bought it as an MS63 piece.
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I can see what Jaobler is talking about, Steve, but it might be the lighting in the photo. In hand that rub may not be there.
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Steve199,

Here's a pic of the reverse on one of my 45-P Walkers that is AU and your reverse picture. I've highlighted the area that appears flattened and may indicate wear.

Yours:

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Dave, thank you for posting those pics. I see that in the photo, and now I'll have to look again to see if it jumps out in hand.

Hopefully it is lighting; there is light coming from both sides of the coin. But I have a feeling that all three of you nailed it.

Related to that, on the 1936-D that I posted last night, there is what appears to be a milk-spot on top left of reverse. The spot screams its presence in every picture I took. Yet in hand, it is the slightest of rubs, and takes a little effort to even see.
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steve,

With the coin in hand you should be able to tell easily. Hold in at about 45 degree angle from the light source and look at the metal "frost" on the surface of the coin. This is mint luster. Tilt the coin back and for to see if it continues over the whole surface of the coin. If it is missing on the spots in question, then it was removed due to mild circulation and you have an AU coin. If it's still there, you just have a weak strike.
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The mint state cut-off can be tricky, especially for Walkers. I once bought a pristine-looking, common-date Walker at a show. The luster and strike were terrific but the seller conservatively graded it as AU-58. I was optimistic that it was really a super choice MS coin. After a round trip to PCGS confirmed the AU-58 grade I finally admitted it really was a lightly-circulated example. It had just the tiniest hint of rub over Liberty's breastplate and along the high points of the eagle's leg and breast feathers. This 1945-D reminds me of that coin.
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If I had to guess, I would actually say this is MS because the pattern of discoloration, particularly on the reverse does not look quite right for wear. I have never done it myself, but maybe a quick acetone bath is in order. As Seated Nut can tell you from his recent PCGS submissions, this may not be wear we are looking at, but rather trace residue (PVC?).
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Well, in hand, held just right, the feathers do have that different appearance. But by rotating the coin, I can get any of the feathers to look that way. And by rotating a little more, I can get none of the feathers to look that way. This is a white coin...with nice luster.

So, I dunno. I can easily see how it is AU-58. But it seems to be a nicer coin than the 1936-D I posted in another thread, which folks all labeled a an AU-58.

Thanks for all the input, and groganKing, I wonder if an acetone bath would help.


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