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Hey sorry the coin is in pretty rough shape, so comparing it to finer versions does no help for me at all:p is the date wide because of wear? Looks like a fat date compared to others I was looking at, but anyways under the 9 I can't tell if this is doubling or PMD because of the shape the coins in so looking for a more professional opinion.    I think it's just a really worn coin but always like a second opinion |
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I think it is safe to say this is just really worn from circulation. I am also unaware of any doubled dies for 1940 dimes. That does not mean they dont exist, just not any examples known at this time.
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Ya I was thinking even if there was an error there would be know way to ever tell due to wear. What is the face side of the coin called? Revers or ? The face side of the corn isn't really worn compared to the boat side lol
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All worn coins, regardless of date or denomination, will usually appear "fat" or large. The working dies are slightly tapered to allow the die to easily retreat from the coin once struck. Because of this, all lettering and digits on the coin are narrower at the top and thicker toward the bottom. With any wear, the thinner tops are removed and what you see is a fatter and fatter design as you get closer to the field. This is for ALL world coinage, not just Canadian. The 9 is PMD, being struck by something. Again, you need to read and study what is normal on coins and what's not. Then decide what an error should look like and how it may have happened. Likewise, it is usually very easy to tell when a coin has been struck by something. Again, pay attention to what johnwayne, John100 and JimmyD have to say. Along with SPP, those are the error folks. Edited by okiecoiner
07/15/2021 1:58 pm
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okiecoiner hit the nail right on the head.
As for your question, the Reverse side has the date, the Obverse side has the portrait (Georgivs or Elizabeth) even with world coins this is usually the same, date on reverse side, portrait on obverse side.
Also, things like doubled dies and repunched letters/numbers are not errors, they are called varieties.
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Thanks for the info guys, and I look through alot of coins now a days and only post what I can't tell if it's PMD or not. One of my eyes can't see anything up close so it's basically one eye that is far sighted lol, so my eyes can easily play tricks in me up close, that's when I post. Also due to the poor quality of my photos I figure someone with a better eye could give me a conclusive answer. Iv been doing plenty or research and have alot more to do. |
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Once you get a general understanding of the minting process and how things work and are made, everything else just kind of falls in place. Only a certain amount of things can happen during the minting process and once you familliarize yourself with what can happen you will always be able to tell what cant. When you get to the point of understanding how things work at the mint, determining PMD is a cross between fact and common sense but is usually clouded when you cant determine facts from lack of understanding. We have ALL been in your shoes at one point, an we have all gotten to where we are from research and studying, most newbies tend to run when they are told that research is key (most of the time they just want to get rich quick) but this hobby is not about that. In the end, research can be very rewarding! So keep on looking. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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I have no interest in making money off this, anything I find I'm Keeping for my son when he's older, an I am researching, but there is alot if info but as for the minting process specifically I do need to look more into it. I have links about it from okiecoiner I believe.
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This is why I mentioned before that the rabbit hole of documenting minor varieties leads newbies to believe every small nic or doubling is worth collecting, dealers have binders or cases of these types of coins for a buck or two and rarely ever trades. Colonial has had quite a few pages of these minor dealer old stock for auctions the last few years with either no bids or 20 bucks or so for the page, there is simply almost no market for minor stuff. Stick to a real double struck coin where a coin is struck twice or more, or a major rotation of 90% or 180% or the other cool error strikes, they happen rarely but they are out there
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07/15/2021 10:57 am
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Go to Coinscan.com one of the better error site of Canadian errors by Mr. Glassford
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I'll check it out. And I know tiny errors aren't worth anything some can even take away from the value if a coin. But I just want a starter collection minor die chips, alot of doubling looks super hard to make out for me lol. But ya I enjoy researching I'm not here with the intention of striking gold, just to learn and see what I can find for now. I'd love to find a rotated die or a visible double die.
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If this coin was not silver say 1970 with the same nics and wear, chips it would only be worth 10 cents today and 50 years from now, but always collect what you like. In the last TCNC sale a cool foldover 20 dollar replacement note that 3 years ago was worth at most 2000.00 it sold for over 20000.00, some not so cool coin errors has also gaining great value the last year or so, that's the difference in minor and major errors
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john100, I once had a 1949 10 cent coin with the 9 in the date heavily doubled on the bottom loop graded by ICCS as a MS-64 and I've also seen other years in 40's and 30's with doubling in the dates. But being a dime it never got any recognition seems no one cares about dimes.
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07/15/2021 12:42 pm
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I have no idea anything about paper money lol, how can what makes any modern bills special? Is there varieties or anything that make them more rare? Iv never though about looking into paper money but maybe I'll check it out. All I know is a little about old 1-2$ bills but nothing about more modern bills
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That is the problem with doubling unless the whole date or the whole side is doubled generally no collectors really care, the only exceptions in recent dimes is the 69 large date, every time it comes up for auction it garners a really good price
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Because our poly notes are every note scanned there is very few poly note errors, only a few missing colour but be carefull with these and some 50 dollars poly has double serial numbers, most of the cool error notes comes before the poly series
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