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A Gruesome Coin Storage Choice: Leather And Lincoln Cents Do Not Mix!

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One of my current long-term spare-time (ha!) projects is to sort/organize/evaluate a hoard of coins assembled by three generations of deceased relatives of a dear friend of mine. Eighty pounds, all told, mostly US silver and copper, generally Civil War-era to the mid-1970's, when the last hoarder became incapacitated following military service.

Just wanted to let everyone see what can happen when coins are stored inappropriately. Two leather pouches (with rawhide interiors full of copper have turned up in one of the shoeboxes). I gather the chemical used in tanning leather are not very stable (or coin-friendly), as illustrated below. Based on a few survivors out of the many hundreds stored in these 5"x7"x2" pouches, I'm surmising that most were minty fresh when put away. But after 35 years in cardboard boxes in an attic in Vermont and then on a garage shelf in upstate New York, here's what they've become.

First a pouch and then a tiny sample of the hundreds that were stored in it, followed by a smaller extract from that group portrait.
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An old leather pouch from my paternal side magically appeared last year. I'm sorry to report a similar result :( Its not just you :(
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Excellent example of less-than-optimal storage practices.
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I feel bad for the wheats but memorials don't make me feel that bad.
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wow - what a shame.

I like the one where only Lincoln is corroded. It's a different kind of cameo. Imagine if it had been filled with the old large cents or something like that. Doesn't seem in this case there was anything of great value in it.
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Wow ,talk about environmental damage . Must have been a lot more than just the leather pouch .
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Ouch!!

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T-BOP: I'd speculate ambient air quality -- meaning the wild fluctuations in temperature and humidity that we get here in the Northeastern US -- could have amplified the effects of the leather, not to mention off-gassing from cardboard, adhesives, and plastics that were inadvertently part of the "storage regime."

...but 35 years is a long time!




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The chemicals used in leather production vary from time to time, and place to place; they include urine, various sorts of biologically active sludge (such as animal dung or abbatoir by-products), alkaline lime paste, salt, sulfuric acid, and chromium sulfate solution. Any one of which could cause problems for coins stored in them.
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I'll add that to my party conversation ice-breakers.
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Yep I've seen similar results with leather coin purses. Maybe it's the abattoir by-products?
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Yikes! Fortunately they appear to be mostly Memorial cents. Still an unpleasant sight...
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Don't wear leather next to your skin - you may suffer the same fate as those Lincoln Cents!
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Try stuffing coins into a well-used baseball glove and let it sit for a year.
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I thought what Sap said, there are a lot of treatments most different in leather, could be any number of the ingredients used to cure, color and finish the leather, could be just the leather alone, but I'd bet it's more along the lines Sap mentioned it's more to do with whatever was used in curing and finishing the leather off.
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