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Speared Head Lincoln And Nice Crack/Gouge(?)

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I found this today in a bank roll. It's a 1984 D cent with two cracks/gouges (I'm still learning). Is this a "good one" finally? Most of what I've been finding are deteriorated die examples, so I'm kinda hoping this is one to show off.Hope the pics are good enough to show the detail.

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 Posted 01/08/2009  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find! I like it
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 Posted 01/08/2009  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How did that survive circulating without being snatched up long ago? Nice find and to the forum.
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Very different. I couldn't imagine that being in the die. Given it's an early zinc cent, I would have to figure it's contamination on the zinc that is causing the copper plating to lift and separate...a gas bubble - something like one.
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 Posted 01/09/2009  01:16 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aren't most gas bubbles kinda roundish. This is odd that the "crack" goes from 9:00 to 5:30
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NICE! Looks more like a gouge to me. I would be keeping that one. That is unless you want to send it to me.
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 Posted 01/09/2009  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These look more like die gouges or die dents, as opposed to linear bubbles. One way to test it is to place the coin under a microscope and gently press on one of the ridges with the tip of a toothpick. If it flexes, it's a gas bubble; if it doesn't it's die damage.

I've seen these kinds of ridges on many Lincoln cents from the early 1980's. Among those I've inspected and tested, the vast majority represented die damage.
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 Posted 01/09/2009  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike. I just tried it and it doesn't move at all. I've also noticed that the "B" in "LIBERTY" has a slight tilt to the left
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You've got your answer, then. As to what, where, and when the die was damaged, I can't answer you. That's the case with most forms of die damage.
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Those appear to be,on a grand scale, die gouges.....nice find, just my opinion...
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Very interesting one! It got me wondering as to the cause. I hope you do the "toothpick test"
Is it possible the planchet feeder mechanism damaged the die?
I would be really surprised if a die were blundered that badly before put to use--but what do I know?
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 Posted 01/09/2009  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really appreciate the interest and suggestions that everybody contributed. With this one coin alone, I've increased my knowledge as to the production process involved in coin making. Thank you, Mike, for taking time to answer this thread.
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