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Fake? Why This Date?

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Why do you think it's a fake?
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Cleaned, but I believe it's genuine.
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The date looks terrible to me. I say fake.
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Dontcha think these 2 are different?


Fake?-Why-This-Date?



Fake?-Why-This-Date?
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Not just the date. Compare bust details just above the date.
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Also check the location of the 1 to the bust.
Definitely a counterfeit.
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FAKE, Out of the known 34 die parings, not a single one has a date placement like this.

Address of seller returns an apartment house in Los Angeles, not a coin shop as they say.

https://lararecoinbuyers.com/

Website goes to a "Bad Security Certificate" then a 404 error page. I wouldn't trust them at all.
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On review, I stand corrected. Got to stop looking at these things quickly on my phone.
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First glance fake. It is not always the date that makes it worth to counterfeit. A common date is overlooked more often compared to a key date. A better condition common coin may have been good enough for the counterfeiter to make a few dollars.
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Our friends across the Pacific will counterfeit any coin that can turn any profit. They produce complete date and mint sets made up entirely of counterfeit coins. Morgans, Buffs, SLQs, and others have "complete set" offerings on Forty Thieves and other sites. It's not just U.S. coins. For example, every date of the King VI Newfoundland ten cent series has been counterfeited, and many of those are $10-$20 coins.
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Location of the last feather should be between the c and a of America on anything after 1886.
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One look fake.

Reason to counterfeit? Unsuspecting date, unsuspecting buyers.
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Why do you think it's a fake?

Well for starters, it uses the 1864-1886 obv hub.
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Well for starters, it uses the 1864-1886 obv hub.
Oops!

Good catch.
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"One look fake"

For anyone who does NOT see this... IMMEDIATELY... learn NOW or stop buying coins.


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offerings on "Forty Thieves"

LOL, that's very insensitive to the bodega guy I'm about to go buy a tall boy from.
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