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Hey guys. I am wondering if someone could scan me the Mercury dime pages of the 2009 RedBook. I have a copy of the book at home, but I am at school. I am trying to use the prices to judge the rarity of the different date/mint/grades. Thanks! -SWUSC |
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I have a scanner but my book is hard bound and won't scan well.
Are there certain dates you want prices on?
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Scanning a page out of a book and posting it online without the author/publisher permission would be a copyright violation...
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The pcgs will work fine. Thanks.
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On the copyright issue. Whitman wouldn't have a case that someone emailing me three pages of a book I own a copy of damaged the commercial value of the work.
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On the copyright issue. Whitman wouldn't have a case that someone emailing me three pages of a book I own a copy of damaged the commercial value of the work. This is just my opinion, but you may be right. The right to having an archival copy (backup) has been defended many times. I remember reading about a case (now I have to go look it up) where a person accused of downloading MP3's was acquitted because he already had the music on CD, but had no idea how to convert them to MP3. Path of least resistance I guess. |
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Whitman wouldn't have a case that someone emailing me three pages of a book I own a copy of damaged the commercial value of the work.
You never mentioned anything about privately emailing scans, sounds like backtracking to me. You ask for a scan, it is assumed that you want it posted online unless specified otherwise. I specifically stated that posting it online would be a copyright violation and I did not mention email because it was not brought up. Publicly posting copyrighted pages would be commercially damaging to Whitman. A former member here used to pull that stuff all the time trying to post scans of book pages which would have the potential to bring liability to the forum itself. Edited by biokemist6
01/22/2009 11:52 am
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You never mentioned anything about privately emailing scans, sounds like backtracking to me. I agree that he was not very clear about the delivery method, but let's try not to assume anything and make an effort to be clear about our intentions.  Quote:
Scanning a page out of a book and posting it online without the author/publisher permission would be a copyright violation... For the record, I read this as a general warning to anyone that might choose to post it here and not a direct condemnation of sfwusc's request. |
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For the record, I read this as a general warning to anyone that might choose to post it here and not a direct condemnation of sfwusc's request. Exactly my point, the former member used to post scans out of CherryPickers Guide to attempt to convince people he found a variety(DD, RPM, etc) however it was usually obvious that his coin was not even close to a match for the book. He continually argued with people here(published authors) about that habit and was called on it many times. Of course, even though he never properly attributed the coins, they were still listed on ebay as varieties  |
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The right to having an archival copy (backup) has been defended many times. That is true, if you own a copy and create an archival backup for yourself that is legal. But that wasn't the case here. Maybe the original poster has a copy maybe he doesn't, we will assume he does. In that case HE could make a copy of HIS book for HIS purposes. Archival use does not extend to someone making a copy of his book for someone else's use. So in this case the OP would not be violating the copyright, the person sending him the scans would be, whether he posts them or e-mails them. |
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 Numismedia is closer to real life actuality for raw coins than PCGS and that site has the advantage of including all the grading intervals from AU up. |
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Archival use does not extend to someone making a copy of his book for someone else's use. I understand that point, but I cannot imagine there being worthwhile case here if both people involved bought a copy of the book and one person sent scans of a portion of that book to the other person. However, this is not the forum to argue this.  That said, the integrity of CCF is very important to me and most of the members. If you choose to act out this scenario, please do it privately. Edited by jbuck
01/22/2009 4:43 pm
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I am sorry that a simple request to try and get the data I need to upgrade my Mercury dime set created all this mess. Again I do thank the two posters that actually helped me out with the links to the data I wanted. On my having a copy of the book, I bought it from one of the forum members..I Bobby131313 was the first part of the email address (CCF Numismatics, Inc.) that was selling a lot of copies last year. If that person wants to verify the paypal transaction was 5/9/08 for $11. -SWUSC |
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Numismedia is closer to real life actuality for raw coins than PCGS and that site has the advantage of including all the grading intervals from AU up.
I'll go along with that for sure. As to problems with copying something from a book. Whitman would probably love it if you did copy from one of their books, only they would want you to make sure you stated where you got the info. With some small organizations such things are usually not welcome. However, large organizations really love it when you use their names. Example almost everyone says Kleenex for all facial tissues and that company really likes the free advertisement. 3M has no problem with people saying all post-it types of sticky paper are post-its. Again, free advertisment. Doesn't everyone say Zerox for all copy work? Hey, make a Zerox of that. You'll never hear them complain about that. Lately everyone is pasteing stuff from that Wikipedia on the internet and no one complains about that either. More free publicity. Many organizations really like it when you use their name for everything similar. Small companies usually don't. If you want to find out if a copy of pages from the Red Book is permisable, just contact: Dennis Tucker, Publisher Whitman Publishing,LLC 404-235-5348 or dennis.tucker@whitmanbooks.com Very friendly guy and full of knowledge. Edited by just carl
01/23/2009 12:13 pm
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