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My neighbours have given me 3 coins that they found in our RV park this afternoon. They thought they might be valuable and so asked me to check them out. I do not know US coins, but do know that these are not valid currency. I am looking for help on what they were trying to be and any information as to who would believe that they could be valid. I have taken a quickie photo using my cell of one coin. The other two are also bogus, but different. One has Asian figures, the other also US. I am just looking for something to tell the owners.
Thanks for any info
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@wanna, how about posting a couple overall pics of what you've got there? Thx.
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Photos of the 3 suspicious coins, all larger than a silver dollar & magnetic.
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Flip side of the same 3 coins
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@wanna, sorry but these are cheaply made fakes with essentially zero collector value.
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Nothing of any value there.
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, all fake, here is your first major clue that these are fake, they are magnetic, silver ones are not magnetic .
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Agree with the assessments above. And found in an RV park--interesting.
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Really bad fakes, probably Chinese cast copies made out of lead or some other really cheap metal in the 2010s or 2020s. The trailer park crowd were pulling your leg. one of them brought them online from China for like $1 per coin.

No real 1795 $ would have a rim that perfectly round as they were milled and slightly uneven. 1804 was a date in only 2 or 3 were made and a few more in 1834 as presentation pieces using the new steam powered machines that gave perfectly round coins.

The Chinese one I know almost nothing about but is likely to be fake too as the Chinese fakirs fake that stuff too. How this junk could fool anyone is beyond me, but it seems too.
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Thank you all for the comments. You all confirmed my initial thoughts.
Thanks again
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The 1804 is a multi-million dollar coin if real. Are these RV park neighbors friends or just random people camped next to you? If they're random people I suppose they might be hoping you'll look up the coins and think you've struck it rich so you'll offer them $50 or something like that. But I'm a suspicious person.
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No, my very honest RV neighbours were not up to anything but showing me these 3 coins that they had found while walking around the park. They knew from several conversations that I was interested in coins and merely asked for my opinions of their value if anything. Rather than state my opinion to them, I posted my thoughts on this forum to get some facts.
Unfortunately the opinions far outweigh the facts.
But thanks for weighing in.
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I am looking for help on what they were trying to be and any information as to who would believe that they could be valid.

They all have a similar origin: recently-made mass-produced Chinese replicas. You can typically buy them for a couple of bucks from a street market, either in China or from their distributors in the West. Their target market are the people who "know just enough about coins to be dangerous": people who know that a silver dollar dated 1804 ought to be worth more than a couple of bucks, even if they've never actually heard of an 1804 dollar before. So they buy it, hoping for an amazing deal.

Re: the Chinese tael: pre-colonial China used the "tael" as a unit of weight for precious metal. The Imperial government was considering adopting the tael as the official unit of currency, since people were using it anyway. European mints hoping to win lucrative government contracts produced pattern tael coins, for Imperial consideration. Eventually, the government decided on using the dollar as the unit of currency instead. Coins denominated "one tael" do exist, but most are extremely rare patterns.
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Kind of good coins to start a fake coin collection.
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@Sap
That is all good info for me.
Thank You
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