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Hello. I posted a topic on an ancient Roman coin a few months ago and was very happy with the polite and informative replies I received. I am not a coin collector but often come across coins while searching for things I collect. As an American living in Rome, I was please and curious when I came across this item listed at a shop I frequent. Can some of the kind folks kindly tell me 1) is the coin authentic 2) does that verdigris impact the coin's historic appreciation 3) is 28 euro... Approx $33 a fair price? https://romacasalotti.mercatinousat...1800/3600656Finding curious american items in Rome is always interesting for me. It adds an additional angle to an item ... Thank you all in advance. Best, Rome. |
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Genuine, but given the extensive corrosion, I wouldn't think it's worth a whole lot more than that despite being relatively high grade in terms of sharpness.
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That is my concern, of course. Could the corrosion be abated? I deal in metal antiques with corrosion and usually dab some olive oil, or metal polish and it keeps the corrosion down... But I doubt that's recommended for a coin.
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I was expecting to click on a slick corroded coin. For $33, this has fantastic detail left, regardless of corrosion. I can see someone paying at least a couple hundred. This must have XF-AU detail! But because the price is so low, I would proceed with caution, as this appears to be a "too good to be true" type of deal.
For the corrosion, I've heard Verdi-Care works great, although it is expensive and hard to come by.
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Yep, $33 would be about right for a barely identifiable coin. That one, if genuine, would be worth much more.
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Well... Here's the thing ... It is in Rome, Italy. I am doubtful there are any collectors of u.s. large cents in Rome... The shop is a hike from where I live. I've looked at a few online high res pics... But what else should I look for?
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Go online and study genuine examples to get a consistent idea of what the real deal looks like. Weigh the coin and make sure it is authentic, because that is the biggest concern.
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hello, so I bought the coin. Here are a few photos - the coin looked good to me. I compared to a high res scan on my phone from PCGS and checked against about 12 points. The only point that caused me to think was the '8'. 1) the corrosion looks a lot less dramatic in person 2) the photos make the coin look off color, but it is very much copper in hand. Any thoughts or opinions would be wildly appreciated!     |
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I say it looks good. Sweet buy!!
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Looks genuine, VERY good buy as far as I am concerned. I would be all over it at that price even with the damage. As mentioned is is the 1800/1798, there are four varieties with that obv, this appears to be the most common the S-191. And it is much nicer than my specimen.
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Thank you all very much for your input! I really appreciate it.
This coin and an ancient I posted previously, are the only two numismatic coins I own.
Last question on this, the link Zurie provided - is this coin, yes? The pop report, rarity, etc?
Thank you all again!
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12/20/2021 6:05 pm
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The one on the PCGS website is also an 1800/1798 1st hairstyle, but I believe that one is an S-190. I agree with @Conder101 that yours looks like an S-191 with a diebreak through the second A in America. Here's a higher grade example sold by Heritage several years ago. https://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cent...ption-071515 |
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Hello again and thank you all for commenting on my post and helping me verify this coin.
I am working through PCGS's website and maybe I am missing something, but I notice three coins for 1800 - #s 1449, 1452, 1455. Where then does the S 190 and 191 come from? When I look for additional information on this coin - as a gateway into exploring PCGS and understanding coins in general - ie rarity report, variants etc., I cannot find this exact variant, ie die break, hairstyle, 8 over a 7. I do see the variant with the 98 under then 00. Am I missing something?
Other posters were referring to, I thought, the PCGS links, but I am not following. Sorry if it's obvious, but I am new to this field.
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