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What The Heck Is This 1982 S Proof Nickel?

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 Posted 12/26/2021  12:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good evening CoinCommunity!

I was looking through a proof set I purchased recently and found this nickel. I honestly am not sure what to think about it. My Pareidolia says it's a doubled die reverse but I can't match it to any known ones, I didn't see any on Brian's Varieties or VarietyVista, so I'm hoping your awesome eyes can help me out. Please pardon the volume of photos, I felt that this coin needed a bunch of clear photos to illustrate what I'm seeing. I am aware that there is a lot of overlap in these photos, I included so much overlap to demonstrate that these marking do not go away when the lighting/angle changes. Some of it looks like it may be MD, but the majority of it is not flat or shelf-like to me.


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12/26/2021 12:16 am
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 Posted 12/26/2021  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Modern U.S. proof coins are produce in their millions.
I may be worth considering that the doubling that we see
may have occurred during the transfer process from the working hub the working die.

I also note the the field below and between the bust and the adjacent rim is not mirror finished.
Interesting proof variety.

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12/26/2021 12:30 am
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 Posted 12/26/2021  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@sel_691 Thanks! I just cracked the case off the proof set to take these pictures too, they were still in sealed mint packaging but they were cheap to get so I didn't mind cracking the case open.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bugil46 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bedrock. Are you suggesting this appears to be a doubled die?
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 Posted 12/26/2021  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@bugil46 that's what it sounded like to me but I am also waiting for confirmation lol

anybody else have any perspective or opinion?
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12/26/2021 10:22 am
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 Posted 12/26/2021  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it worth sending in for attribution? If so, who would I even send it to? I know Brians Varieties does nickels but what are my options with it? I'm almost shocked that almost nobody has replied to this lol help me out here guys
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 Posted 12/26/2021  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Sel_69.

It is an 1982 coin and in that time all proof coins was struck twice. Seem this doubling orientated all versus E adjacent SE.

An filtered picture could show better but it is hard to take, and the angle must be perfect perpendicular with the focus (90 deg.)

In my opinion it is a nice variety.
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12/26/2021 4:27 pm
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@silviosi Thank you for the reply, the information, and the opinion! Do you happen to know who/where I can send it to for attribution? I attempted to reach out to Brians Varieties to see about attribution but the mailer daemon informed me that their email account no longer exists so I'm not sure where else to send it. Does anybody else do nickels?
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 Posted 12/26/2021  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a high bounce after the second strike Machine Doubling on a proof Nickel.

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12/26/2021 10:55 pm
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Coop do you happen to have your usual diagrams/pictures/informational content for this particular issue? I got 2 people saying its a variety so I'm really dumbfounded, I have no idea what I'm looking at lol

Also how does that explain the third doubling lines on the U's?
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12/26/2021 6:44 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2021  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Me I say variety because when come to proof we expect perfect or near coins. It is recognized variety by the collectors? It is a question to answer. For me personally been proof it is a variety due to the fact is attributed to the printing mint process.

Value I do not know. Will be an 63 or better? also is hard to say because I see some strange lines.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not concerned about the value, I am more interested in the knowledge. I love the "why" of things.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The D, STATES Of are pure MD.
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 Posted 12/26/2021  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@petespockets I agree, like I said in the post there is definitely some MD going on in places, but better than half of it doesn't look like MD to me. Normally I just take coop at his word, but I also was hoping he had some reference material for what he thinks is going on with this coin so I can learn.
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12/26/2021 10:34 pm
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The proof coins are struck twice. Sometimes you see on Proof coins shadow of the devices on the fields. They are called Flat Field doubling. They look like this:
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This is from Machine Doubling on the first strike and that is flattened on the second strike. The Machine Doubling on the second strike is what I'm seeing on your coin:
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Note on the following images there was a lot of movement and you can see the pushed metal where the contour was:
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This is a higher bounce like on your coin. But on your the height did the same thing on almost the tops of the devices. Still normal sized devices, just altered higher on the devices.
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That is what your are seeing on your coin.
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There it is. Pictures saved for reference and study. Thanks coop!
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