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I too could use some help on a couple of of my grandfathers dollar coins. He was a General in the US Air Force and traveled extensively in the 30-40's. Everything he collected from his travels was usually genuine and he had great taste. I've tried to do my homework but there really are SOOO many fakes it's hard for my untrained eye to tell the difference. Any help on authenticity and current value would be greatly appreciated. Also, if not fake would it be smart to have it authenticated as I will be selling them. Or just throw them on ebay? Dragon Measures 39.5mm x 2.5mm and weighs 26.72 grams 1912 Republic measures 39.65mm x 2.5 and weighs 26.98 grams Both have the silver "ring" when dropped. Both are non magnetic From what I've researched the dragon provinces seem to match the english text. THANKS!     Edited by ferdball
01/03/2022 11:48 pm
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Hupeh should be 39.5mm by 2.5mm and weigh 26.7 grams.
At quick glance without enhancing the pictures, I'd say being genuine is doubtful.
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The dragon Hupeh coin doesn't look quite right; the dragon side looks OK, but the other side is noticeably weaker. It's not an "obvious fake" (the Chinese-language province name does indeed match the English name) but it's still not quite looking right to me. Can we see the edge?
The second one, the colour looks a little "wrong" for silver, and there are enough issues I'm spotting with the details to make me question it. The back of poor Li Yuan-hung's neck seems to have disappeared completely, for example.
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I don't know if most the English letters break like that on the genuine one's for the first coin, also the denticles seems odd.
The second coin I would want to double check the Chinese character.
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Need more info such as the weight of the coins and photos of the edge.
The Hupei coin actually does look promising at first glance but more info will help.
The second coin however has several red flags but let's see.
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Wow!, thanks for all the support so far! I'll attach a photo of the edges of both coins (top is the dragon), note that this is the best area of the edges, the dragon has a nearly worn bald spot in one section. the 1912 is consistently ridged with only a couple dings. I'm happy to provide any other information that might help you guys! If you need a super closeup of specific areas or characters let me know. They each weigh 27g on my scale (I don't think my scale goes down to tenths and it might be just rounding up)? Measurements (using my cheap digital calipers) Dragon Dollar Measures 39.5mm x 2.5mm 1912 Republic measures 39.65mm x 2.5 mm Both are non magnetic  Edited by ferdball
01/03/2022 10:05 pm
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Definitely need better scales. Shouldn't cost that much to get one online for 0.1g scale - maybe 20 dollars max?
Send them both to grading. I think the hupeh is genuine as it's somewhat common. As for the other dollar, there could be the possibility that it's genuine. Just the color of the photos that may be deceiving.
Don't let others try to buy them cheap off you. Send them for accessment and work out what to do from there.
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gx series, I just remembered that I had a bullet/reloading scale so I put them on and converted grains to grams. here's what I found:
Dragon weighs 26.72 grams (412.5 grains)
1912 Republic weighs 26.98 grams (416.5 grains)
Could you point me to a reputable grading service to send them off to?
thanks again!
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I am quite certain the hupeh coin is genuine. Even with the small mark on it, I reckon its easily a 200 dollar coin.
I'm still not convinced about the Republic dollar. The weight is off but the edge looks OK.
I've never sent coins for grading in America but I believe PCGS and NGC are both reputable. Some people have preferences but do some research to see if the grading price is justifiable.
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Wait, is it possibly possible that someone's Grandpa actually had genuine Chinese dollars... including a rarer type?
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I'd like to mention a couple things about being "non-magnetic". Or in other words "not being attracted to a magnet". That is one thing. But more importantly, coins like these should test as being "dia-magnetic". And that is not hard to check. The best results are obtained by careful selection and application of the magnets. For a silver coin about the size of a dollar, these N-52 magnets are good to suspend. Making for a good or bad check and then going from there. If bad, then stop. If good, then SG test.  Edited by Albert
01/04/2022 10:45 am
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