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Victorian Coins With Slits/Holes - Can Anyone Enlighten Us?

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 Posted 02/22/2022  2:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ockycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,
We're looking to auction a few Victorian coins from an inherited collection, and there are a couple of coins which are very perplexing: one of which has a very crude slit cut across its middle, the other has multiple holes across its surface.

Could anyone perhaps enlighten us as to what these 'alterations' might be due to - are the coins fake? We haven't a clue, so any help appreciated!

Many thanks and best wishes to all.
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 Posted 02/22/2022  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thee coins are genuine, it's just that they have been intentionally damaged. There is not much value to them now.
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 Posted 02/22/2022  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ockycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks JimmyD. Any idea why anyone would damage coins like this? (not your average situation of taking anger out on an inanimate object)...
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Coins were altered for other purposes. I've seen a few large U.S. cents that were made into sewing and cooking implements. These may have been used as a button, or a yarn twist, etc. Or, they could just be the product of idle hands...
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 Posted 02/22/2022  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Multiple holes make me think that the coin was being turned into a spinner:

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With that said, the holes are not evenly distributed, so probably not.
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I'll second the "idle hands" thing. When I was a kid in the mid-'60's, my brother and I used to play a bit in our grandpa's workshop. We savaged many cent pieces in a variety of ways with his drill press, grinder, files, and a variety of other metal-working tools. Also learned a bit about electroplating using my chemistry set... If they weren't too badly damaged, they were later spent. No harmful intent, just youthful curiosity combined with a bit of boredom .
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The slot in the first old penny is the right size for a new penny. Perhaps it was a homemade piggy bank in the 70s.
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There was a tradition of a shopkeeper nailing a counterfeit coin to the counter, both as a warning to potential fake-passers and as a reminder to himself of what fake coins look like. However, this is not the case here, as (a) the coins appear to be genuine, and (b) that's not nail-damage.

All one can really say about these pieces is that the damage is certainly intentional, rather than accidental. Unfortunately, once the context of such damage is removed, it is usually impossible to answer "why". One might make a guess - for example, the top one with the slot might make a functional button - but certainty will elude us.
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Thank you everyone for your helpful and interesting thoughts on these coins, appreciate you sharing your knowledge & views!
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When you have millions of coins in the hands of millions of people, anything imaginable has been done to them, probably hundreds of times.
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