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Valued Member
Canada
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Hi Am I correct in saying this is 1911-1915 44 Candareens China Kiang Kan Province? Also Ive looked through 'fakes' for this and there is nothing identical. What are your thoughts? Grading? (Sorry for the plastic in the picture, I'm running out of holders) Thanks   |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The denomination is 1 mace and 44 candareens. I see nothing obviously fake about it. Have you checked for correct weight and magnetism?
Chinese coins were often not struck well or consistently. Given the amount of wear, VF-XF, but possibly it is a weak strike or a worn die.
Try some acetone to get rid of some of the the green, but a lot might be due to bad tarnish due to poor alloys/ high copper content. It might benefit from a very light and quick dip, but that is up to you.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Thanks.
Non-Magnetic.
5.1 grams plus or minus
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 Australia
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That should be "4.4 candareens", not "44". "1 mace and 4.4 candareens" isn't the "denomination", it's the weight. There were 10 candareens to the mace, and 10 mace to the tael, making the tael slightly heavier than a troy ounce. The denomination is "20 cents" (the Chinese dollar officially weighed 7 Mace 2 candareens; 1 mace 4.4 candareens is one-fifth of this amount), and it is under "20 cents" that you fill find it listed in the catalogues.
Officially, the Chinese 20 cent coin was supposed to weigh 5.44 grams (the literal metric conversion of "1 mace and 4.4 candareens") though many coins in the late Empire and early Republic periods were struck considerably underweight. The green colour also tells me this coin has quite a high copper content, despite being nominally made of at least .900 fine silver. Despite all this, I would still assume your coin is genuine until proven otherwise; fakes of the smaller denominations are far fewer than fakes of the dollar and dollar-sized coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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VF-25 and would probably get a straight grade. You might want to soak this one in some Acetone to get the green junk off.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The green/toning are not particularly lovely, but it IS genuine. Kiang-Nan a bit better type... and decent grade.
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Pillar of the Community
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I would say goodFine to aVF, check the wear on the Chinese characters.
Quite grubby, but again shows the nice patina of age and I would leave this coin as it is, rather than do anything to modify its surfaces.
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Hong Kong
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Posted 02/24/2022 10:03 am
