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Help To Identify A Coin (15th Century Coin Weight)

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 Posted 03/23/2022  10:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add FelipeMP to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Help to identify this coin:
One side show, probably, ST. Ladislaus;
The other side show the legend UXIX;
The diameter is 19mm.
I don't know if is a coin, token or a scale wheight.
It's oversized for a major european medieval bronze coins, and the style is too detailed to a byzanthine bronze coin.
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@felipe, first welcome to CCF. Second, I'm going to move this over to the unidentified subforum so that we can get some good eyes on it. I suspect that it is a religious medal rather than a coin, and that the inscription is actually the Roman Numeral LXIX.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Saint Ladislas of Hungary is pictured like this (crowned, nimbate and holding a halberd).
Otherwise I agree with @spence. The first symbol is probably a gothic L, and I don't think this is a coin.
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By accident, I stumbled across this similar image of the reverse, suggesting it is a coin weight, possibly 15th century Low Countries: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=442880

Note that the list of weights contains one for a Hiungarian ducat of Matthias Corvinus. If yours weighs about 3.4 g. it could be this one.
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very nice coinweight!
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... and the coin for which it (might) have been a weight: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5419335
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Well done with the ID on this one @tdz. Any thoughts around the reasoning for the Roman Numerals on the back? Maybe 69 coins to a specific weight?
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Some further information about your coin weight. This coin weight belongs to a set, issued together with the ordinance by Maximilian of Austria for his (minor) son Philip duke of the Burgundian Netherlands on December 8, 1499. The set of coin weights was issued for the use of money changers. An explanation of this ordnance, together with pictures of the coins and coin weights was published by the coin club of Rotterdam (NL) see: https://www.nkrotterdam.nl/Rotterda...ef_1499.html

This booklet was written by two memebers of the club, one of whom (de Wit) owned a complete set of these coin weights (later sold by Künker Germany). I attach a photo of this ordinance and an enlargement of the coin/weight concerned. It reads: den ducaet va(n) honghereyen (the Hungary ducat) ie the ducat issued by Matthias Corvinus. And the weight is given as: va(n) lxix int marck (of 69 in the Mark). The (Parisian) mark represents a weight of 244.7 grams. Thus the weight of the coin/coin weight is 3.55 grams (69 pieces make one mark). I also attach a photo of the coin weight in this booklet.
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