1964 D Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC New Doubled Die Obverse / DDO ? Bar L

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levelsofmadnes Pillar of the Community United States 3003 Posts	Posted 04/02/2022 8:00 pm Hello all, "BAR L" doubling possible new 1964 D DDO that looks like 1964 philly DDO-018 http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...4PDDO018.htm thanks for viewing/commenting Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34428 Posts	Posted 04/02/2022 8:05 pm That is an interesting thought @lom. At first I though you were talking about the L proper and I was thinking that might be damage. Now Insee that you are talking about the raised line directly below the upright of the letter L. I suppose it could be doubling or else a die gouge. I'm interested to hear what others think on this one. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10044 Posts	Posted 04/02/2022 8:21 pm Looking at the pics at the link you provided does make yours look similar to the DDO. I could go either way with this once. The L obviously took a hit, and if the area below is indented, then it might be a damaged area as well coincidentally looking like the DDO-018. But maybe not!? How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Report this Post to the Staff
levelsofmadnes Pillar of the Community United States 3003 Posts	Posted 04/02/2022 8:34 pm thanks Spence, Earle42 dang... I had to pick the one that took a ding to the "L". the other two do not have damage and have the same "BAR L". a total of three from the same BU ROLL. Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8788 Posts	Posted 04/02/2022 8:57 pm It does not appear to be strait but has a slight inward curl to it, that follows the rim. Not sure what it is but do not feel it is a DDO. Added: After looking back at this it looks like there are flow lines passing through the anomaly, which makes me think it's a die gouge and why you have found multiples. -makecents- Edited by -makecents- 04/03/2022 08:58 am Report this Post to the Staff
levelsofmadnes Pillar of the Community United States 3003 Posts	Posted 04/03/2022 09:36 am -makecents- never thought about the flow lines; gives me something to think about... but as for finding multiples of the same die in an original OBW roll is very common. to me, it seems there are on the average of 9 to 14 dies in one roll. so, finding multiples of one die in an OBW roll is very common. thanks Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8788 Posts	Posted 04/03/2022 09:45 am I just mentioned multiples of the same die because that would rule out PSD. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 04/03/2022 11:20 am That's just hard for me to tell as I've never really looked into the way those below the L DDOs form. But a possible comparison coin would be 1963 DDO-013 since it is doubled in a pretty similar position. Would have a sharper look on the proof of course, but shape and orientation might help. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/03/2022 1:31 pm Take a look at the DDO-001-4 and note the 'L' is not the only thing affected. The WE and 'T' (first 'T') are also affected. http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...4DDDO001.htm Spread seen on these devices. Stronger spread on all the motto devices. Also note the Shape of the 'B' on the closed devices are showing a different appearance. Note the little things. As this will help you see the differences in the listings for each die. http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...4DDDO002.htm Spread seen on these devices. Note the spread on the 'WE' and TR on Trust. http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...4DDDO003.htm Spread seen on these devices. Note how the 'T' is showing a spread distortion on that device. http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...4DDDO004.htm Spread seen on these devices. Spread seen stronger on the 'W' and the 'T'. I feel this is not raised enough on this coin to s a DDO. Also it doesn't appear the other devices are also affected. Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 04/03/2022 2:43 pm No other devices are affected on the 1963 proof DDO-013. That is not a requirement for this to be a DDO. Report this Post to the Staff
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