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Hello to everyone here, I found this coin 30+ years ago while metal detecting with my grandfather in Zapata, TX. near the Old Mexico border. I've yet to identify it all these years later, but I might easily be missing an obvious reference. The circle on back is what really gives me pause. I don't have the proper scale for weight, but the o.d. is 15mm, and one pic I've included shows some other coins for comparison. Thanks for any help.     |
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That circle on the rev gives me pause too. I wonder if this isn't part of a button. I'll be interested to see what others think.
Welcome to CCF by the way!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 , glad you can ask us! I happen to have one very similar yours, and best I can come up with is some kind of play money of sorts. It was probably issued some time in the 1890s based on the 'date' 1890. |
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 Yep Very interesting. Like to know more. |
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United States
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Sometime back someone posted a pic of that token, but it had 2 holes drilled in it, top and bottom...
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Australia
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The lug mount on the back clearly indicates that this was, indeed, a button. It was never a genuine coin, but rather, a button copying the design of a coin. Using coins as jewellery was a fashionable way to show off your wealth, and if you couldn't actually afford to throw perfectly good money away by turning it into jewellery, you bought cheap "costume jewellery" replicas instead.
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Why would a button be decorated on the backside?
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First, Quote:
That circle on the rev gives me pause too. I wonder if this isn't part of a button. Quote:
The lug mount on the back clearly indicates that this was, indeed, a button. Quote:
Why would a button be decorated on the backside? Just a question. Could this be a cuff link, rather than a button? That might explain the two-sided design. |
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Why would a button be decorated on the backside? Button-backs have all kinds of designs on them, from plain to elaborate. Often they'll have a maker's name or at least a city of origin. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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United States
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The eagle is the same design eagle holding the three arrows which they used on military buttons in the Civil wars in the U.S. Hard to boil it down to one area because there were so many individual designs made for military uniforms.
On the other side the coin doesn't looked to be convex like a button only flat. Might of been a war trade token.
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04/13/2022 2:56 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Found it! (1890) EAGLE 820 / WREATH 810a (R-7) US COUNTER TOKEN   |
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United States
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Well done @sat. This other example seems to have had that rev circle ground off.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Valued Member
United States
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Yeah I wonder what that circle was for?
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Valued Member
Spain
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Hi. You can find similar items in http://www.botonistica.es/catalogo19/pgeneral.html but with different designs (page 6 number 152, spanish coat of arms; p.9 n. 271, argentina c.o.a.; p.18 n. 804 mexican eagle; p.19 n. 849 uruguayan coat of arms). It seems to be a product of an unknown fabricant (I think european). Theese counters -probably- were made as yours and the user could add a loop and be used as button, or to drill a border hole, and be used as medal, or to be soldered to a handle and used as gas or petrol lamp regulation Knob or ... to do nothing and be used as game token ... |
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United States
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Sorry to ressurect this thread but wanted to add my token to it for people that stumble across it on the internet. There is definitely no sign of a shank on this one.   |
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Posted 04/10/2022 9:51 pm
