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1808/7 O-101 Capped Bust Half Dollar For Grading

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Insanely original surfaces on this piece. When I bought it, the reverse was caked in some kind of organic gunk so I had to give this one an acetone bath for a while. You can see on the reverse where it's slightly brighter was where the worst of it was, but I think it looks a lot better now.



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Some central weakness, but very original surfaces, I'd say XF-45. Great coin!
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You bought it!! The seller had a few other higher end coins with the same gunk. Probably glued into a frame or album. I knew that reverse gunk could've come off, but the price ended up being too steep for me. Between the eye appealing obverse toning, the attractive overdate, and the crisp strike, this is a very nice coin. Not much left of luster, XF-40+. Can you add a picture of the edge lettering?
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Very nice coin @ploop. I know that are are focused on the grade, but could you please add a closeup pic of the overrate to this thread? It's always nice to see that. Thx.
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@jacrispies, Yes! It was very original and eye appealing and I'm glad you noticed it as well. I didn't think the price was terribly steep if it's able to hit XF. I am a sucker for original CBH's like this one, getting harder to find these for a good price.

@jacrispies and @Spence, I will post rim (difficult to get a good photo) and overdate pics shortly. Excuse the bad setup.
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I'll say EF_40. Heck of a coin.
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What a neat and original coin! I'll go with XF-40. There seems to be a decent bit of wear on the hair and feathers though, so I wouldn't be shocked if they graded it at VF-35.
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There seems to be a decent bit of wear on the hair and feathers though

The majority of these flat spots are attributed to strike. This coin exhibits even wear on all devices and fields. A lot of 1808's I see have little to no feather detail in the eagle's head and wings.

This example is a fantastic long term hold. A two year type and the only overdate for type. Thanks for the edge pictures.
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The chest drapery and hair detail tells me EF-40. Great eye appeal on this one.
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New pics are perfect. Thx for adding them!
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EF-40/45
Would you happen to have a pic of before the soak...courious...?
Great pick up!
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VF-35 for me!!

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the stars still have their center points on them and the date is quite sharp as well as the detail on the top of the cap and lower hair. definitely a weak obv strike. the reverse letters are quite sharp as well as the leaves and the 50C. to me the coin is sharper than XF. there appears to be some residual yellow gunk still visible the left wing to the head and a few rim bumps on the reverse

personally I think its in the AU50 range but I think it would grade XF45
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@jacrispies and whoever else is willing to lend some help, I'm relatively new to grading some of these early bust coins, specifically in higher grades. With that said, how do you tell the difference between apparent "wear" that is attributable to strike vs. actual wear from circulation? For instance, I just looked today at this 1827 Capped Bust half dollar on ebay today (https://www.ebay.com/itm/3045703764..._Auction=1), and I was unsure of how to grade it, based on what looked like some flatness in the eagle wingtips. What sort of grade might you assign to this coin? Thank you all for your help, as I'd love to learn more about grading these early bust halves!
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CoinEnthusiast- no worries, happy to help. Your best bet is to start your own topic so it can get the proper attention.

That 1827 half dollar has a very good strike, which is usual for the halves dated 1827. I see very slight wear across the devices, and a possible cleaning. I would say AU-55 details.
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