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1935 Buffalo Nickel Counterfeit Thoughts?

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Snagged this one for $10 on the Bay just to get it in hand for a closer look and to add to my "blacklist" portion of my collection. Counterfeits are not my area of expertise and have only recently decided to start picking up more as I spot them.

Has anyone else come across one of these? The only other '35 counterfeit I'm familiar with was the old contemporary "2 leg". Weight is within tolerance, but a touch light at 4.91g. Obverse devices look quite a bit more convincing than the reverse, which is quite mushy. There are several patches of raised bumps that make it appear to be cast, but there are striations on the edge that suggest the planchet was punched from a sheet (implying it were struck). There are also planchet marks that were not removed from "striking" in the usual points: shoulder of the Buffalo and hair above the braid. Luster also looks quite flat as it appears in the photos. There are some signs of metal flow on the obverse, but almost none on the reverse. One would expect to see significantly more metal flow with the amount of " Die Deterioration" present. I could not get a solid edge shot.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


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There's certainly a remarkable loss of detail on the reverse for the apparent grade.
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Man, that is a mighty strange look for a common date Buffalo! Not unless this was among the last of the 1935 dated nickels in which this could be a terminal die state where the die had so much wear it made everything look mushy... That is not as likely.
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Area between LIBERTY and the rim looks awfully strange, in addition to the mushy reverse.
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The obverse looks like stone man drawings from Marvel comics.
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Have to admit it does look a little odd but why counterfeit a common date Nickel ? Yes I know about the Hennley Jefferson nickels, but still.
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It is a strange specimen and I agree with your observations.
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Appears to have a 'been cast' look.
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Without magnification, that obverse may have fooled me as a novice Buff collector. The reverse, though, does have an odd look.

The other counterfeit you posted is much more obvious.

Thank you for sharing these with us.
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The Chinese are counterfeiting even the most common date coins now. My guess is counterfeit after looking closely at E Pluribus Unum.
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Although it is dirt cheap to counterfeit in China, what would the reason be for a common date?
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Make it for a fraction of a cent and sell it for a dollar, that's a pretty big profit.
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