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Am I seeing a "seam" around the edge? John1  |
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There seems to be some kind of faint seam or groove along the edge. This could, of course, be a visual/photographic illusion or an inconsequential abnormality.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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10/21/2022 12:55 pm
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I am waiting for the experts to give me their feedback you already heard form a very well known 'Expert' he is Mike Diamond. That being said, as I'm not a life long expert in coins - I'll still toss out my opinion here about the edge picture (of which - we need a better one edge on not at an oblique angle). It looks like that seam mentioned by John1 and the expert Mr. Diamond, could be slightly incuse at the center and spreading out towards the top and bottom - as if the coin's rim has been squashed and spreading out the rims material outward a tiny bit. If you are able - can you accurately measure the diameter using a digital caliper? or size it up with another cent coin to see if there is any deviation? Edited by Dearborn
10/21/2022 09:42 am
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I'm no expert, I've studied thousands upon thousands of pennies and I have seen this strike style, (for lack of a better word). Just saw one that was on a 1924 1¢. What I can add is the fact the US was minting coins for multiple nations as well as Panama, Argentina around that time. In the late teens to early 20's I believe they we were quite active in supplying either planchets or finished coins to multiple countries. The US struck coins for at least 20 countries in 1942-45 or so. Most of the planchettes we're the same weight or at least had 1 identical measurement to the standard US penny. I have a fairly detailed spreadsheet with all the info if anyone's interested.
Long story short....The THICK rim 22D could be a blank ment for a coin 1mm larger or something. When it was up-set the extra material was pushed inwords. On the few I've run across the strike is never even. Roughly 30° of a given side is weak. Educated guess. I tend to think the simplest answer is usually correct. I.E. No one went to the trouble to make a fake that spot on to screw up the rim. I'd think they'd be everywhere as well. Who makes a handful or just 1.
Just an educated guess from an uneducated guy. Good luck. You have the best working this out for you. Definitely lucky in that respect.
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I suspect that possible seam is an artifact and not really significant, but a better edge photo would help. I don't doubt this is a genuine Lincoln Cent, but the question in my mind is what caused the wide rims? I have no expertise or opinion on that. I believe I have seen similar wide rims on wheat cents before, and here's a thread from a few years ago regarding a 1920-P that looks similar. http://goccf.com/t/361128 |
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Coin Edges. Will be wonderful to find any expert or professional that can see any difference. All are the same exact width and diameter and all are 1922-D Lincolns.  Edited by DmanofLV
10/27/2022 02:26 am
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Phillip Rimer has spoken! Look at the rims and all measurements photos provided.
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Which coin do you guess to be rimmed. fake or not the same diameter? I like to hear about this one. Edited by DmanofLV
10/27/2022 03:27 am
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The most accurate comment so far is from OZZY. Some collectors know better than others and it is good to learn that we don't know everything about coins. We should always do our best to learn more.
The THICK rim 22D could be a blank meant for a coin 1mm larger or something. When it was up-set, the extra material was pushed INWARDS. On the few I've run across the strike is never even. Roughly 30° of a given side is weak.
Credits are given to OZZY. Good Job!
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10/27/2022 02:43 am
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Since you truly believe this is so rare, spend the money and send it to an expert, rather than coming on to the forum and throwing a fit for anyone that doesn't buy your snake oil. There has been an expert that responded, but that wasn't what you wanted to hear, so you insult everyone disagreeing with you.  You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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10/27/2022 02:52 am
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I go with Mike Diamond. In my judgement 4 pages of back and forth has gone on too long already. I'll reserve final judgement until the OP posts a photo of the coin in a PCGS or NGC slab.  Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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It feels to me like this thread has run its course so I'm going to lock it now. Multiple people, including Mike Diamond have weighed in and I'm afraid there isn't much more we can do for you @dman. I hope you submit this coin for verification to one of the TPGs and we will certainly welcome your posting of their opinion here. Even those of us with decades of experience are still learning, and that is precisely the mission of CCF. Thx to all for participating.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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