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Why Can't Mint Workers Align Australian $2 Dies Properly?

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 Posted 11/11/2022  01:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MachinMachinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
People are charging ridiculous prices for slightly off-centre $2 coins on ebay (and some fools are buying) so whenever I find them I toss them into a 4L icecream container. That container is now almost full (showing just how rare these coins are).

There's only so many you can show in a photo that's less than 300KB:
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Is it really that hard for workers at the RAM to align the dies properly?
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 Posted 11/11/2022  02:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It defies logic doesn't it?

Looks like the $1 have sold in their droves mostly say between $4 and $10 each.
Well that's what the market is telling us, maybe time to start drip feeding them into ebay.
And this 2005 $2, looking for the world like it came out of wet concrete, just caught my eye. There were 30 bids and someone paid $67....
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2005-Au...9SR7CC2NeMYQ

And again, it's worth what the fool's market is prepared to pay.

Oh before I forget, you get another guess in the competition when you get time.
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 Posted 11/11/2022  02:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two things to note:
- Some of them may be forgeries.A fake $2 coin is more likely to suffer from poor quality control than a genuine one.
- $2 coins are on the small side. A slight off-centring is therefore going to be more noticeable on a smaller coin. That being said, if size alone were a major causal factor, then we should see just as many 5 cent pieces with similar off-centring - and for the most part, we don't. There must therefore be something in the $2 production line that differs from the 5 cent line in some significant way. $2 coins are thicker, and they have the interrupted milling, but I can't see either of those factors causing an increase in die misalignment.
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 Posted 11/11/2022  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A guessed explanation:
Perhaps? the more frequent mis alignment for the $2 coins could be due to the design of the shaft of the dies, and the way they are fitted into the coining press.
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Can someone tell me what has happened with this coin please? It has an extra arc around the edge like an off-centre strike but it goes all the way around. Any ideas?
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 Posted 11/11/2022  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MachinMachinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sally here are a couple of threads about your coin:

http://goccf.com/t/273411

http://goccf.com/t/162759
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Thank you MachinMachinMan
Those links were very interesting and informative. Thanks for your help. So much to learn about coins and I'm surprised that people go to the trouble of counterfeiting them. Good luck to them. I will still enjoy finding oddities like that.
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Definitely counterfeit

http://goccf.com/t/415661
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