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1964-D Rosies—questions.

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My Grandpa had a couple BU rolls of 1964D Roosevelt dimes. I was looking to see if any of them were FB and quite a few were, but in the first roll I noticed quite a few die cracks and other issues and thought I'd put pictures here and see what you guys think.

One example dime:

1964-D-Rosies—questions.
1964-D-Rosies—questions.

Some of them had what looked like scratches—I was thinking maybe someone cleaned them with a Brillo pad, but then I realized the "scratches" were just in the fields and not on the devices—bad die polish job?

1964-D-Rosies—questions.

There are a series of coins with die cracks extending from the base of the torch to the M in Dime.

1964-D-Rosies—questions.

Also some die cracks in the hair, a couple extending from Roosevelt's head to the rim.

1964-D-Rosies—questions.

And then finally there are several with this weird bump coming off the center hump in the W in We Trust. There's also an inverted V between the W and E. It almost looks like doubling, but would it only involve the W?

1964-D-Rosies—questions.

1964-D-Rosies—questions.

Obviously, not all these features are on all the coins in the first roll, but there are quite a few examples of each of the things I mentioned. I'd love to know what you guys think about these—I did look on one mint error site for the possibly doubled W, but didn't find it.

Just curious, too, what grade would you give the dime that's pictured? I'm testing myself here. (Again, not looking to sell these, just using them to learn.)

ETA: I see the inverted V I mentioned isn't visible in the photos—when you reduce the file size it looses some detail. I took a couple blowups and emailed them to myself to compress the files. Will post when the emails come through (takes awhile sometimes).

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YEESH! Trying to compress this to under 300kb was a pain in the neck!

Obviously in the process it lost some resolution but you can see the bump and the V.


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Looks like nice die cracks and perhaps a die dent. I'm interested to see what folks think of the grade to see if there will be a premium above melt.
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LOL. I've been assuming all grandpa's coins are basically melters. Most are far more circulated than these, and the ones that are MS-ish are really common. But they're a free education.
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Not seeing a DDO. There should be spread on the devices. If you are looking only at the 'W' on WE, the other devices would also be showing the same affect. So it may be a die gouge on that area. (A die gouge is a die event. Happened after the creation of the die. A doubled die show the doubled die from the first strike. A die gouge was not there when the die was created. Hub doubling is what makes a doubled die. Not just a raised area on the fields. The fields are the outside edge of the die) So any contact (die events) will affected this area the easiest.

CoopHome: Why are die gouges not a doubled die? post die damage to a die, leaving an incuse mark on the die, raised area on the coins fields.
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Thanks, guys! I opened the 2nd roll and it's MOTS, even down to the die cracks and scratched up planchets. One or two might grade around 64-65 FB, I'm thinking, but nothing worth actually getting graded. One nice surprise—tucked in among the super well-circulated Mercury dimes, there was a nice little (also super well circulated) Liberty Seated 1852 or 3 O Half Dime. It's pretty much a cull, but still a nice surprise.
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I like em...
maybe a little die clash?
http://www.maddieclashes.com/wp-con...45509977.jpg
There were a couple of those produced...
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Photos of the sad little Half Dime


1964-D-Rosies—questions.

1964-D-Rosies—questions.

This photo isn't much help figuring out the date. I'm thinking 1853. Too bad it isn't in better shape, but it was stil a fun find!!


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Second coin it is FB.
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