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Nice. Maybe Mike would like to comment on it,you should PM him. John1  |
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Very cool! I marked up one of your pics, maybe check out what I've pointed to. This area would be opposing what you have a close up of.  -makecents-
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Thanks -makecents-, it does look like something is going on in that area.
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This is a very interesting imperfection, and your interpretation of it as an exogenous floating die clash seems quite plausible. I'd like to examine it and potentially write it up for Coin World. Error coin writer and researcher.
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nice going, CoinHi! great find.
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I would call these a dropped die onto another die issue. If it were loaded in the machine, all the devices would be present. I'm no seeing that on these. Looks to me examples of a dropped die (Loose) onto another die that was probably damaged during movement to another location. Thus affecting just the leading edge of the loose die to sitting die in a non machine location. Why do I feel it is this? Note the fields on the die are stronger than the devices that transferred. On the die, the fields are the outside edge of the die, the devices are incuse in the die. Thus the fields will make a stronger mark and the devices would leave a weaker contact mark on the victim die it was dropped onto to. I seen this over an over on these listings of mad clashes. Not a striking issue to me, just a dropped die onto a sitting die affecting the edge of the die that damaged the other die. Note the dropped dies devices are stronger on the raised devices and mirrored:    Die dents: The die was affected thus will strike coins with the mark, until the die is polished away, removing the die dent.   Note on the last image, how the edge of the die was affected (probably from a drop onto another die) that altered the outside edge of the die. That is why I feel these are die to die contact and not a die creation issue. All the die gouges that are concentric, are to me a dropped die issue: If it happened during a strike, would both be the same? Note mirrored? Just like a coin on coin creating a false transfer, if the same thing happened on a die die do the same thing? So what I feel is that this is not a die creation issue, it is a die accidental damage issue from two different dies, not created during the die creation process. Basically a Die event, (DMG) not a die variety that was on all dies from the first strike. CoopHome: Mad Clashes on dies? What could they be? |
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Thanks for the comments CCF!
I'm getting this coin out to Mike so we'll wait and see what the diagnosis is.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Interesting find! Congrats!
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I've taken my first look at the coin. This appears to be a newly discovered floating (Type II) counterclash. The letter T is raised while the design rim impression is incuse. If this was an exogenous floating die clash, or even a tilted and radically misaligned double-reverse mule clash, the letter would be incuse and the design rim impression raised. So this is a significant discovery, as there are only six or seven floating counterclashes currently listed. I will be writing up my findings for Coin World this week. Error coin writer and researcher.
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a nice find and interesting info!
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Wow, fantastic news! thanks Mike, I can't wait to see and read the article!
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Do you plan on slabbing it? If so, which company? What would be the potential value? John1 Edited by John1
11/22/2022 5:14 pm
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Well, holy-moly! Congrats!!! very nice. Can I get your autograph CoinHi?
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This is fantastic news! Congrats, CoinHI!
-makecents-
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