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Question On Die Alignment And/Or Die Rotation.2022 ASE's

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I picked up two 2022 silver eagles within the last 8-10 days from two different locations. The first one seems to be fine, with the correct die alignment for coins. The second coin came in todays mail. As I was trying to decide which coin to put into my type set I noticed that this coin had a "medal or token" die alignment. Either that or it has a 180 degree die rotation. See pictures.
The coin on the left has the correct (I think) die alignment.
The coin on the right is off 180 degrees.
Also does the date on the coin on the left look odd?

Question-On-Die-Alignment-And/Or-Die-Rotation.2022-ASE's
Question-On-Die-Alignment-And/Or-Die-Rotation.2022-ASE's
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 Posted 01/07/2023  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say the ASE on the right is a fake, detail is wrong on nearly every aspect.
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I agree with @mac. For example, look at the font used in the date and compare to here:

https://www.moneymetals.com/2022-si...=17935669360
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Experiment time: Weight? tissue test? Magante test?
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Unfortunately, the one on the right is a shoddy fake, as others have noted.
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 Posted 01/08/2023  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Among other issues, look at how the sun's ray cuts across the "L" in LIBERTY.
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Definitely a fake.
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Even the rays of the sun as they pass under the L are out of place.
This is a terrible copy. made by someone that has no idea of the coin turn vs medal turn of US coinage.
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Bummer the one on the right doesn't look right at all, hopefully you can get your money back.
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The one on the right is a fake.

Where is the position of "missing reed" on both of them that is "supposed" to thwart counterfeiting?
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I contacted the seller 1st thing yesterday AM and to my delight the refund was in my bank this AM. Thanks all..........alpha33
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That's good news! Did you have to send the bad egg back? Was it even silver?
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I bet seller knowingly that he/she is selling fake ASE, and one's that asked for a refund will certainly received without question.

Edit: And you don't need to send it back to the seller, just ask ebay.
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That's good news! Did you have to send the bad egg back? Was it even silver?

We'll see, but I still have to replace it.
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