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New Member
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I'm trying to find research on specimen mintage specifically the 1932 dime, the theory is 3 made but how accurate is that?
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Valued Member
Canada
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You won't find an official number, only an estimate of the population, for sure it's a extreme rarity, I wonder if ICCS have any certified?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PCGS shows 2 graded SP63, NGC none, ANACS none. Most other George V 10c SP dates at PCGS have very small pops too though. The one pictured at PCGS sure looks a lot better than SP63 - I guess they don't like die polish? Looks fairly flawless otherwise to me.  |
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Canada
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ICCS show none certified in the 2016 report. Rare for sure. Regards Vic
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I have discussed with the poster privately as he's interested in the coin, but I figured I'd clarify this for the forum in general for the sake of accuracy and education. The coin is represented twice in the pop report, both SP63s are the same coin. I'm currently talking with PCGS to fix this, the coin was sent in for regrade and sent back without an upgrade but had a new certification number.. however PCGS forgot to delete the old one.
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What's been described as die polish lines sure look like hairlines to me.
Notice there are no die polishing lines in amongst the lettering in the legend.
If these were die polishing lines they would be more uniformed and all of the field level surfaces would be affected including around the legend.
If you look closely around the engraver's initials you can see the hairlines extent over the kings portrait, this is part of the recessed area of the die and would not be effected from die polishing.
I would want to see this coin in hand before making a final judgement but from the pictures supplied I even question whether it's a specimen.
The centre row of beads on the crown are not even properly developed.
A full well developed centre row of beads can easily be found on all grades of MS coins from 1932.
It just seems awfully strange that they're not present on a specimen coin.
Cheers, Bill
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Pillar of the Community
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 Quite low quality of strike for a specimen coin.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I wonder if this coin was from the Cook collection and was cleaned by the owner.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Edited by Dollar 1935
01/14/2023 1:45 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thanks Dollar,
How the newer grading didn't get a Details designation is beyond me...
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A lot of Cook's coins did get details grade. Some more could have.
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If you look closely around the engraver's initials you can see the hairlines extent over the kings portrait, this is part of the recessed area of the die and would not be effected from die polishing. This is one of those coin collecting fallacies that keeps getting repeated. Die polish can and does appear in the recessed areas of the die. 1947 50c ML CR, SP65 https://www.PCGS.com/cert/261223131937 50c Matte SP65 https://www.PCGS.com/cert/376222481948 50c Concave SP66 (cert# no longer valid, image pasted instead)  Ad nauseam. I can't speak with authority on what happened to the 1932 discussed above, but it seems like the "before" coin is coated in lacquer. Whether removing that revealed die polish, or removing it caused "cleaning" hairlines, is hard to determine, and could be a mix of both. There are some in the upper left reverse of the "before" coin that are also on the "after" coin, if you look carefully. Image lighting and angle of course can make these appear or disappear. Yes, roughly 20% of the Cook coins in the Heritage auction were deemed Details. They undoubtedly missed some, and I believe they also got it wrong on a few, one of which I have and is currently at another TPG getting a second opinion.
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Rare or not .in my opinion , cannot for the life of me
Understand how that got straight graded the second time .
Obviously the bidders didn't like it as it sold for far less
the second time around !
Cook sure destroyed a lot of nice coin!
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Canada
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From the original Pittman sale catalog (lot #2279) : ''No more than a few 1932 specimens are known of any denomination; in the case of this 10 cents piece, probably only 4 or 5 examples. At one time, JPP even thought this coin to be unique but noted later that he subsequently seen another example.'' Perhaps the specimen of the Bank of Canada museum ? https://www.bankofcanadamuseum.ca/c...0-cents-1932 |
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