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New Member
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Hello everyone,
I'm dusting off my old coin collection and considering getting back into it. Specifically, I'm considering investing in American silver eagles. I like the history and the price point, I already have a decent start, and they seem to be very popular coins (for good reason). I'm wondering what is the best way to invest in American silver eagles. Would it be better to complete a full set of 1986-current in either proof or graded coins (or both) OR would it be better to simply stack ungraded coins from a low circulation year? My goal here is have a fun hobby and maybe amass a collection that I can pass onto the kids that will increase in value over the next 20 years or so. The first option seems a little more interesting. I already subscribed for proofs from the US Mint going forward. But there is more premium above spot with that strategy. I'm interested in any thoughts.
Thanks!
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There are many different ways to collect these coins. I, myself, collected all the proofs from 1986 to 2022 and planning on keeping up to date moving forward. Mine are ungraded - but I'm in the process of having them all graded for display purposes. I also collect the bullion and uncirculated ASE (ungraded) to put into a Dansco album. Check my signature for my ASE collection. If you are looking to the ASE's for future investment by silver content, then stacking bullion is the way to go. Stacking low mintage ASE's can get very expensive - for instance stacking the 1995-W proof , or the 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof - very expensive to purchase, but the value can plummet later on if interest falls off.
Edited by Dearborn 01/15/2023 10:47 am
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New Member
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Thanks for the comments, Dearborn! Nice collection of proofs in your sig block. That's one of my goals. I have about ten of the proofs already from childhood.
After doing some additional research and reviewing your response, it looks like I have articulated the age old question of collecting coins (like ASEs) versus stacking silver rounds. There seems to be two schools of thoughts. I'm thinking my personality and financial situation may be more geared toward collecting sets and rare coins as opposed to stacking generic rounds for the sake of preserving wealth. It seems more interesting.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've been buying a few ASE since 1986 and the premium is way too high now to justify keeping on buying them. But I'm not a stacker, I just get a few ASE. If you want to do the full set of Mercanti Heraldic Eagle reverse 1986 to 2021, they will fit in a Dansco, I did mine a few years back and got the last few as they came out. I think I paid on average $27 per coin with some as low as $17 and some as high as $45, doing that set today will be over $45 average per coin. Considering they are supposed to be bullion and millions were minted, the price seems high to me. If doing proofs, the 1995 W , 2019 S-erp and 2020 v75 are pricy. This is my set of eagles http://goccf.com/t/386399
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That is my interest as well, but not just with ASE's I have collected complete sets of all modern US coins (as many as I can in BU condition - which is an ongoing endeavor)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've been collecting BU and some Proofs on mostly an annual basis for quite some time. I did have to acquire a few of the older dates though to catch up. Now I'm to the point of buying every year just as soon as they're available. I keep all of my bullion coins in airtites and pop them into their appropriate dates in ENCAP pages. The pages are then kept in regular binders and I label each binder with contents. That way I can just look at the label and the coins are all right there for me to inspect and enjoy - very organized, safe and handy! You could concentrate on a BU set AND Proof sets - over time. The ENCAP pages are also made for Proofs. Enjoy collecting them! They are wonderful coins/bullion to collect, invest and to pass on.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Right now pass on buying ASEs unless they're under $30 which is hard to find.
Buy 10 oz bars with the lowest mark-up over melt.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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coins (or bullion) are not investments. they are speculation.
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Pillar of the Community
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How can you honestly say you like the price point?
Still to this day the premiums are too high.
You lost me at investment.
You are in our hobby for the wrong reasons, and when you get burned you will be bitter.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great Topic, IMO, People collect for ALL reasons. Collecting the American Silver Eagle Series, All Proofs, All Uncirculated , All Reverse Proofs, All Enhanced Reverse Proofs, and Other Mint Marked Issues, is a Feat, I do Not collect Bullion Coins for this series, some Only collect the Bullion. Graded coins Only, All Graded First Strikes, FDOI, or All Raw from the U S M INT'S SITE.  Any ways You choose, The Keys 1995-W, 2019 Enhanced Proof, 2008 With the Reverse of 2007, BIG investments. When the series is completed, and the Yearly Available Members are added to the series, AMAZING  Best wishes in where ever your collecting takes you.......
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Pillar of the Community
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Coinweek actually had a good article on collecting ASE's that might give you some ideas and include some costs to consider if starting from scratch rather than say ordering one proof and uncirculated from each year from the mint directly or going to shows and cherrypicking top examples to grade yourself as the 'fun' https://coinweek.com/bullion-report...-strategies/ Something like the late stewart blay did including also copper us and canadian cents. http://goccf.com/t/438397It is mostly those who are buying for the silver metal content rather than collecting say proofs or top grades or the interesting variations or labels who are the ones that suggest to avoid them right now as other options are out there with lower premiums for the silver content. Bullion premiums are quite sensitive to physical supply and demand and the 2023 American Silver Eagles sold by the US Mint were already sold out until 2024 by mid-September 2022 as one reason for a high premium. In other words suggested they should currently be avoided for bullion stacking and should move to a different government minted coin, and also for collectibility for the bullion in more than a small quantity as there are likely much better choices that would likely do better for possible investment purposes. (Rare coins, error coins, high demand, low supply coins etc)
Edited by datadragon 01/15/2023 9:00 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I'm thinking my personality and financial situation may be more geared toward collecting sets and rare coins as opposed to stacking generic rounds for the sake of preserving wealth. It seems more interesting. As implied by the responses above, this is a good mindset for collecting ASEs. The current premiums are way too high for bullion to consider stacking, and the proofs/uncircs always carry a hefty premium. 10 years ago you could get MS bullion ASEs for $3-4 over spot but we haven't seen premiums that low for years. The upside to stacking ASEs is they are one of the most recognized and trusted silver coins in the world thus they are very liquid (i.e., in an pinch you could move them quickly). Good luck and keep us posted on your progress! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I use and see the term "investment" quite a bit. Perhaps using the term "Speculative Investment" would be more appropriate and make more sense. You win some and you lose some, but, the enjoyment of collecting will last a lifetime! It certainly has for me. 
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Valued Member
United States
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datadragon thank you for posting the coin week article. It was an inciteful article. I think I am going to stick with collecting ASE proofs.
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Quote: are not investments. they are speculation. Well I invested in these silver coins speculating that they will rise in value as time moves on (I'm talking years of course). Quote:Coinweek actually had a good article on collecting ASE's that might give you some ideas and include some costs to consider if starting from scratch rather than say ordering one proof and uncirculated from each year from the mint directly or going to shows and cherrypicking top examples to grade yourself as the 'fun' https://coinweek.com/bullion-report...-strategies/ Not sure how I missed your post, Data, but you bring up a great point. I, for now, collect for the joy of it, but I cannot take it with me forever, so at some point, during my retirement I'll have to sell them off   (hopefully at a profits from original cost)  to keep me living a comfortable lifestyle.
Edited by Dearborn 02/19/2023 11:58 am
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