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New Member
United States
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This first photo is a 1984 Lincoln. second pic a 1976. Not very hard to see that the1984 die is either too large or the planchette too small. Letters are on the rim. No problem accomplishing the task in 1976. Letters not on rim. I say "come on man?"   |
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Moderator
 United States
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Well the '84 looks like a Ridge Ring is forming, making it appear that it is on the rim. The die wears out eventually. If the mint inspected every coin they make and toss out the questionable ones, we would not have any coins to collect. Also if they only released just absolutely perfect coin, there would be no fun in searching out 'error coins'. |
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New Member
 United States
32 Posts |
quite a bit of difference there. not even close. they don't have to inspect every coin to catch that.
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New Member
United States
32 Posts |
I worked for the Federal Gov't for a lomg time. I know what it is, it's "don't give a crap-itis" setting in.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19150 Posts |
The first pic is showing Die Deterioration. Dearborn is spot on--dies wear out, and its shows on the coins being minted. I suppose if dies were replaced after 100 strikes, we'd have great looking coins. Dies are rather expensive, so the mint tends to squeeze every strike they can out of them. |
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United States
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every hundred strikes? really?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4591 Posts |
Planchette is used with an Ouija board
Planchet is the numismatic term.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4591 Posts |
Also
The purpose of the mint striking coins for circulation is to create a utilitarian object sufficient to represent value.
Not art.
As long as it's clear it's a dime, a nickel, a cent, whatever, it's actually good enough for the purpose.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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United States
95740 Posts |
Quote:
Planchette is used with an Ouija board
Planchet is the numismatic term. Funny, I didn't catch that - I'm so used to reading and 'auto-correcting' typing and spelling errors.. lol Also - I didn't know that. |
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New Member
United States
32 Posts |
They could get there cans up out of the chair at say 1.2 million strikes and see whats going on too.
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United States
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@jj4, clearly you are very passionate about this subject and that is great. This is a fun topic for discussion.
I guess that I'm a little more of the same opinion as @bst on this one. I'd rather have the Mint get all the use they can out of dies when striking cents rather than trying to do something like having proof-quality coins meant for general circulation.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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New Member
United States
32 Posts |
of course you're a coin collecter.
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New Member
United States
32 Posts |
If the mint did a good job at quality control then there would be a lot less error coins everywhere. Then when you did find something it would be worth a lot more and a lot more exciting. quality collecting or quantity collecting. I've always leaned toward the quality side.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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How common errors happen to be
comes down to how much the US Mint wishes to spend on quality control, and how critical that quality control needs to be.
That is why I don't bother very much about coins with minor errors.
On the other, hand major error coins can be highly valuable.
As an aside, the self acquired training by those who make careful study of minor error coins
would find it much easier to detect fake and counterfeit coins and be able to make significant contributions to the body of knowledge in this area of numismatics.
Also, die linkage study and can be a very interesting part of numismatics, and a very useful tool in determining date sequencing for ancient coins.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@JJ. You post two different Design variety 1976 and 1984 which do not use same Master Hub and different alloy also.
Quality for business strikes? is no way to have when the Reserve look at the lower price per coin produce. You can not have mass production and high quality. The norms for them it is decent quality with less major errors of the chain of production. Like this they eliminate big accumulations of coins which for the Reserve it is a detriment of the market supply.
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New Member
United States
32 Posts |
Henry Ford would strongly disagree with you and he invented mass production. Mass production enhances quality. But there is one requirement you have to have your head out of your hind end to get fresh air to your brain to make it work.
Edited by JJ44
01/20/2023 03:34 am
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Posted 01/19/2023 8:34 pm
