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1934 D Wheat Penny Die Clash?

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 Posted 01/31/2023  01:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Joshgt83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Coin is year stated.can see one cent and bus unum on front coin upsidedown? Can someone please tell me what this is? I camt find another anywhere. Also back some punch thru an believe says 1910,
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 Posted 01/31/2023  03:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vise job not a die clash.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joshgt83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry but I completely disagree with you. No way someone did that with vice an still have details and lettering would be flat etc
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 Posted 01/31/2023  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can disagree all you want
This is a vise job.IMHO
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 Posted 01/31/2023  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@josh, we see this exact sort of mechanical damage more than once a week on this subforum. If you have an alternate explanation for how this might happen at the mint, then please offer it to us. Otherwise, you are going to see a chorus of folks telling you it is just damage, such as from being squeezed between two other cents.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Josh, try it your self, I have and the above statements are true. sorry.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
C'mon, Josh.



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 Posted 01/31/2023  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Joshgt.... Feel free to take your coin into a coin dealer/shop & get their opinion on the matter.
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If it were done by a die, all the affected areas would be raised and not incuse. Showing this was transferred off another coin, not done by a die.
Also not all the affected areas are mirrored. If it were done with a die, then it would be correct, as the die is mirrored. So a transfer from a coin will leave the exact thing you are seeing on your coin. A squeezed cent between one or two coins. If it were a double strike issue, it would look like this coin:
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A closer view would show this up close:
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Note all the devices are raised, and the double strike flattened some of the raised devices. Exactly what you would see on a double strike coin. All are not mirrored. Which shows it was done by a die.

On your coin, the devices affected are on the tops of the tallest devices, and mirrored, Exactly like what would happen on an altered coin, disfigured by another coin. (Not done with a die) People create these coins to sell them to newbies that fall for these. Just an altered coin like the one below:
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Note on the fake one I posted, there is two obverses showing over another normal coin. If it were a die setup, why are two obverse sides showing? On the real deal, all the devices line up with the normal setup with the running die pattern:
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Note the slight alignment of the two strikes on this coin? But not that they are equally correct on both sides to each other, raised and not mirrored. This is done by working dies. on a coin that was struck twice. So consider this information.

CoopHome: How can I tell is a coin was altered or double struck? What would I expect to find? devices that are raised not incuse. devices that are normal, not mirrored. Also the alignment would be correct on both sides of the coin.

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Cannot be die clash if the dates are different - the obverse is a 1934, And on the reverse it shows a backwards 1910

This is a well done vise job here.
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If was done with vice wouldn't the 19 in 1934 be under the E in one not over it?
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what a waste !
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My opinion, it's a vise job--perhaps more than one 'squeeze'.

Joshgt83 -- If you feel you have a legit die clash, consider submitting the coin to a reputable third party grading/authentication service. If you do, please share the findings with us. Thanks.
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Coin looks warped and the mirrored design and different dates makes this definitive "garage job" damage, PMD.
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Agree Chase007..... What a waste of two decent coins.
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@Joshgt.... Is there a local coin dealer/shop in your area? If there is, ask to speak w/ someone knowledgeable regarding errors/varieties & simply get an opinion. All your questions will be answered.
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