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1995 D LMC. Messed Up IGWT

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Thought this was sorta neat.
What could've happened here?


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Extreme die wear and contact marks are present. The size of the devices are normal.
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I have seen this before, it is " Die Deterioration Promoted by Trails". Very cool looking. LINK https://www.error-ref.com/die-deter...d-by-trails/
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The lines coming off the corners of the letters of IN GOD and WE at an oblique angle are trail lines and are caused by a poor die polishing job.

I don't think they add much value to the coin, but they look really cool.
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What about the lines on top of the letters, right vertical of N in IN?
Same on GOD? Might be one on the right arm of the W in WE?
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I agree this looks like Die Deterioration.
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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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It diminishes each direction, from WE, were it's strongest but you can still see it. It is pointing the same direction across the face of the coin approximately, 120 degrees, southwest. If you look at the link I provided, you can see it is straight up on we but looks angled, going west and east. It's actually all pointing the same direction on the coins face though, just a different degree than the OP's coin. It's definitely deterioration due to trails.




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CoinHI, it is deterioration, enhanced by trails. As it says in the link, deterioration, follows the path of least resistance, the trails are already there and the deterioration, is following them.
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I knew there would be backlash, when I posted this.
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Ha, I thought I was agreeing. I've seen this effect quite a bit but thanks for link Makecents.
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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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. Thanks everyone. I agree about the trails.
So Die Deterioration caused the letters messed up?
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Rob, the trails are already there, before deterioration sets in and then the deterioration just follows the trails, accentuating the trails and deterioration.
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makecents, in your link it only effects the fields outside of the devices. This effects the devices, like they are simi doubled.
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makecents, in your link it only effects the fields outside of the devices. This effects the devices, like they are simi doubled.
Cujohn, trails affect both the devices and the fields but is usually more prominent and noticeable in the fields, the way the polishing affect both. Here is a good example of a trail die that directly affected the devices. LINK http://goccf.com/t/438956

Here is a definition of trails on Error-Ref. LINK https://www.error-ref.com/trails/

Here is a link to Traildies.com. LINK http://www.traildies.com/
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Thanks again.
Sure turned out to be a learning subject.
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