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What years with and without mint marks was the floating roof on the Lincoln Penny known.
I cracked opened the rolls that I said I had and I've found 16 no mint mark uncirculated 1969 Lincoln Penny red with floating roof as well as doubled die on the penny. I didn't see any for the 1969 no mint mark out there in red uncirculated.

Having a no mint mark 69 unique?
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How about some nice closeup pics?
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That is a tough question to answer accurately, I'm not even sure if anyone really kept track of all the 'floaters' resulting from polished dies.
It is a curious question to be sure.
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Floating Roof it is nor variety or error. The No MM mean the coins was struck in Philadelphia. Only penny centennial carry MM P.
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The "Floating Roof" coins I have found (quite a few of them) are 1969-D & 1970-D. Apparently Floating Roof can happen anytime
the die is over-polished on any coin as mentioned above.
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I have 2 rolls of uncirculated 69s. I was attempting to take photos of them last night and they're all so shiny it's insane. It's making it difficult. There are flaoting roofs mentioned however allnthe ones mentioned have been with D or S mint mark none without meaning for Philadelphia. Mine are no mint mark (Philadelphia) and they appear to have DDR on one with and without the floating roof.
Polishing issue for sure, absolutely.

I posted the question here because I didn't have photos to post. I'll try again and maybe the mod will move topic.
The pennies I gotta say are beautiful. The redness, the shine, half polished and non polished it's quite stunning.
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What years with and without mint marks was the floating roof on the Lincoln Penny known.

1969 and 1970 made up for 99.9% the last I looked.

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Having a no mint mark 69 unique?

I wouldn't say unique, but fewer pop up especially in un-circulated condition. All three mints had the die abrasion issue. Denver and San Francisco are more common and easier to see that more than one or two dies abraded so easily.

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they appear to have DDR on one with and without the floating roof.

I did a quick check on coppercoins, which showed two DDO's, but no DDR's. Beware Machine Doubling was fairly common this year.

More food for thought. The Philadelphia mint was relocated this year. Supposedly due to hubbing issues, they altered the multi squeeze die making process by removing the alignment lugs on the dies from 1969 - 1972. In 1973 they were reintroduced due to some major doubled dies created without them. Thanks, Doug.
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Here we go again with the floating roof "errors"
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The alleged floating roof error was born of an ebay fad from someone trying to make a big deal out of nothing to sucker people into buying a "L@@K RARE ERROR COIN! L@@K! BIN for only 500.00!" type auction (and laugh while they ripped people off). Unfortunately more and more people saw the name and now this non-error shows up all the time with people thinking it is something legitimate to the coin hobby.

These are nothing more than a typical die polishing that removed some details. It happens all the time. There is not just one certain set of years or MMs this will be limited to since all dies get polished.

Features can be lost from any part of a coin from die polishing. But since a cutesy name catches peoples' eye, newbies will go looking for this "rare error," and get surprised when they "actually" find one or more.

No doubt eventually some grading company will see there is profit to be made by offering to put this wording on a slab, some will sell for high money (especially b/c of registry sets), and then after a short while the prices will drop and people will once again wonder why their "rare" coins are not worth anything near what they paid for them.

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Numismatics do you or Earle have examples of other fully abraded roof lines including missing initials on LMC other than 1969 or 1970? If so please share. I think the OP's question concerned the roof line, I included the initials for myself. No error pun intended, but ya'll seem to include it in your posts. Thanks, Doug.
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Images aren't helping. Sharper closeups needed, please do not use screen shots.
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They are just excessive die polishing. They are common to find on the later die states that have been over polished. To me they are not a plus. But people collect what is interesting to them. Some are slabbed. But to me they are just die events. Altered dies. But people think they are something. I'm not one of them.
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