Top Ebay Fake TPG Abusers ...

Not really in violation, but then again they are knowingly selling SGS crap.

Not only are they a SGC Client they are the president.

Wow ... thanks for all the responses ... and I agree with ALL of them! Neither seller I mentioned is 'officially word-for-word' violating ebay policy, which is what irritates me the most. I'm not here to debate or argue. I'm looking to a resource to assist with protecting a huge facet of human culture - the numismatist. To quickly paraphrase the 'Selling Currency' policy:

"When listing a certified coin, the coin must be certified by one of the following authorized grading companies ... NGC, NCS, PCGS, ICG, ANACS"

With that in mind ... ebay should stick to their wording. Some find it ok to duplicate an acceptable form of representation, when in fact the product is not as described, merely an opinion (in fine print). That ... that is the problem. They have taken an approved product (authorized slabbed coins) and fraudulently implied that they have the same.

For instance: I acquire 50 pair of Levi's jeans, all new, real cheap. They have no tags, factory defect or otherwise not fit for retail. I do some research and see that 550's sell for about $35, so I list them on ebay starting at $17.99. Heck yeah they're gonna sell ... but are they 550's? So, the novice person, who likes Levi's instead of Wrangler, sees the deal and the picture and thinks "man, this is a great deal!". Until the person gets a brand new pair of 545's. Not fun, not fair, not nice. Just one person that learned a lesson, just one birthday gift that has to be exchanged, or just one person that looses that enlightening internet experience. On the other hand, you must be an educated consumer and lessons should be learned. I just don't get that 'happy' feeling from these people. So they make some big bucks and some are happy, I just wouldn't want to see faces of the other 10,000 people. When in doubt, I assume I have a MS/PR69, and would never try to tell anyone they were getting a "perfect" MS/PR70.

The American dream is to get a piece of the pie. I believe you should work hard to get that ... not rip people off. I've not lost hundreds on junk coins, and I agree that watching their listings will inevitably get you that $100 coin for $50 with Free Shipping. But, what about everyone else ... ?

Raw uncertified coins taped in a 2x2, or loose, aren't "certified" coins. There are exceptions to the policy and the specifics of those types of coins are explained in the full policy, which is just way too long to post here.

If they were to slab the coin(s) without the fake label, I would have absolutely NO objection to the listings. I sell almost all my UNC coins, mostly State Quarters, in AirTites, so I completely understand. I AM the little guy! I honor my coins ... if UNC ... then they stay UNC! If I touch it, drop it, or the cat gets one off my desk I would never slab it and 'in my opinion' label it as a perfect UNC coin just because it's shiny.

Thank you ... I think my goal is just to create an awareness, in case there is anyone searching this site for information from trusted resources.

"We can circumnavigate the globe with information virally within 4 hours ... but no one except you can stop the instantaneous click of the "Bid Now" button."

(hey, someone should quote me on that! I'm just fired up tonight for some reason ... ebay drives me crazy!)

Glad someone has raised awareness. I did but 2 coins from aboncom (SGS)in the past. Big mistake and BOTH coins turned out to be cleaned. They were advertised as MS65-PL $1 Morgans.

I had a run in with aboncom. They listed 5 consecutive dated Morgans. I was happy with the pics supplied,grade, & price. I payed for the items, But when they arrive, they weren't the one I bid on. I contacted the seller, who said they were the ones pictured. I pointed out that he has 2 other sales posted of the same coins, so how is this possible. They then replied that they use generic pics. I informed them that I was going to return the coins, & I would expect bid price, & all shipping costs returned to me. They said no shipping fees. I contacted ebay & rec. every last cent.