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This Isn't An 1869/9 Indian Head Cent, Is It?

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 Posted 06/14/2023  11:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I purchased an 1869 Indian Head cent recently, and there is a faint bit of what appears to be doubling in the 9 digit of the date. Even so, I don't think that this coin is the 1869/9. I'm not too familiar with the variety though, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

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 Posted 06/15/2023  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please no photos of your scopes' screen...thanks.
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 Posted 06/15/2023  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A sharp closeup of the full date logo, please.
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 Posted 06/15/2023  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry John1, my phone unfortunately doesn't have the ability to zoom in that close to the date, so my only option to get a close-up is to place it under the scope. Here are a couple of new photos though:

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Please no photos of your scopes' screen...thanks.
Yes. Taking a photo of a LCD screen adds artifacts that obscure details needed to make a proper assessment. Please save your scope photo to the memory card or hook scope to the computer via USB.
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Don't have my Snow reference book at hand, but guessing this might be damage rather than a RPD.
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CoinEnthusiast,
Here is a link on taking pics with a phone:http://goccf.com/t/422658
Here is a link for Snow varieties:https://www.indianvarieties.com/fly...e-varieties/
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Date position looks promising for Snow-3 but need much clearer photos to be sure. Better photos of date (to include bust and denticles) and reverse of full shield and N in ONE. I think I am seeing the obverse die crack from the middle of the ribbon end through the tip of the flag of the 1 in the date... but not sure.
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The date looks damage to me, but I'm not well versed in coin of this age.

Where can I get a Snow reference book?

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@Dearborn, here is a link where you can purchase Rick Snow's attribution books
https://www.indiancent.com/inventor...n-books.html
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I'm less concerned about possible doubling than I am about the lumps in the fields and on Liberty's neck and the distorted obverse lettering. I'd suspect this cent may have an authenticity problem.
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Yes, it is an S-3. Environmental damage, but collectors still pay a premium for this variety and this one has nice details.
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