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Maligned Coinage: 1876 20c PCGS

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The Twenty Cent Piece was, objectively speaking, a failure. Remember the Susan B Anthony dollar, how it irritated people because it looked so much like a quarter? Pretty much the same deal. A really bad idea.

Still, I'm quite fond of this odd little coin. Grade opinions, pls.

Maligned-Coinage:-1876-20c-PCGS
Maligned-Coinage:-1876-20c-PCGS
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 Posted 08/08/2023  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say VF-20.
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I'll go with VF30.
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I'll bump it a tad to VF-25.
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Nice honest looking example. I think it will make it to VF30.
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I agree with 25.
I have been on the lookout for a 20 Cents for quite some time.
I was the under bidder at a public auction recently,
for a Double Dime, in about the same condition as the example that is the subject of this thread.
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I think it's VF-25.
I like US coins with unusual denominations. I have 20 cents in 1875 (probably the simplest year of this type).
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Hint: These coins wear quite differently than SL quarters.
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this is on overall pleasing example of this series. just honest wear and good eye appeal. finding really nice examples of these at decent prices is not easy. I think its a tad better than 25 so I'm also going with VF30 due to the sharpness of the devices and eye appeal
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Strong VF-25 or weak 30.
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I'll bump to VF-25.
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Since the board regulars have chimed in, I'll reveal a little early:

Maligned-Coinage:-1876-20c-PCGS
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I must admit that I am a bit puzzled by the VF-35 grade assigned. If you compare this coin to the PCGS photograde for the series, A VF-35 has all the letters of LIBERTY on the shield clearly visible including the B-E-R. Also their picture of a VF-30 reverse looks more detailed than their picture for a VF-35. I know it is hard to judge from pictures alone but it would appear that PCGS doesn't even follow it's own photograde standards at times. Granted, the TPG's see a lot more coins to grade than the average collector and designate grades based upon their experience. However, it still just an opinion and not a strict science. Based upon the PCGS photograde, this coin falls short of the VF-35 designation in my opinion.
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If you compare this coin to the PCGS photograde for the series, A VF-35 has all the letters of LIBERTY on the shield clearly visible including the B-E-R.


Where did you find PCGS Photograde of Twenty Cent Pieces? I haven;t been able to. They are very different from quarters.
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You have to choose "Quarters" from the first screen and then the Twenty Cent Pieces are the first entry on the second screen.
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Got it, thanks. As so often with classic US coins distinguishing between wear and strike weakness is a key issue, and the points to compare are different for each series. If you look at the obverse shield on the AU55 example on PCGS photograde, "Liberty" is also quite faint.

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