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Bummer...looks like she was a nice coin till someone decided to pretty her up...probably the old baking soda and water treatment...?
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Would a proof have the same number of reeds as a business strike? John1  |
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Someone's had a go at it for sure.  |
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There are no proof 1916 WLHs. The wide rim is noticeable on this first year coin. Too bad someone messed with her.
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Alright so after work I went back to the coin shop to talk with them and have them take a look at the coin with me. We discussed strike reeding and design, We also compared the coin to a bad dipped coin and a unc known business strike and the coin legitimately overall texture on the coin looks different in a pleasing way. The extra bit in front of the eagles toe is absolutely of some kind of interest.(what kind not entirely sure) As to what it was they agreed it was more than likely NOT clashing. They also agreed the strike was well done lady liberty, the eagle and just the strike have a what appears to be more detail so to speak when compared to other halves,(when you account for wear) the rims and reeding were also crisper than to be expected. So the next step is going to be going to my local coin show in a couple weeks and talking with someone from ngc to have them maybe try and help me get it figured out. In the mean time I think I'm going to try and get with someone on patterns and see if this has any relation to that area. My thinking is (with the odds saying it probably isn't) it could be one of the last design changes considered before finally settling on the reverse image we have all known. If that is the case they were testing the designer initials and seeing if more land by the eagles toes would look better or worse, just a thought probably wrong haha. I'll post an update when I know more.
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08/31/2023 8:47 pm
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Good idea, you definitely need some professional input. I'd be surprised if this is some sort of pattern.
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They were changing the design around the eagles foot. Like I said I'm hopeful but realistic the chances are way beyond against me. I know my lighting wasn't the best also sorry I wasn't sure it was worth pulling out the camera originally so used my phone but now I'm wondering if I should try and see if I can get the image crisper if the reverse is actually different.  |
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I'm curious as to whether or not anyone else has one with that design feature the rarity Is something I do question. It Doesn't seem to be a common occurrence in my opinion however if 20 people pop on with a yup have it on the reverse then its probably normal. The only other image online I could find of one like it was so circulated you would never be able to identify it off the rims and surface and even then the obverse doesn't match nor does the reverse either its close but straight up different
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08/31/2023 9:33 pm
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I think it's been heavily whizzed and harshly cleaned, not sure which came first. The luster and pebbly texture are indications of whizzing. I don't know what's going on between the claws but here's an AU58 from the PCGS gallery with the same feature. There's an EF40 in there that also has it.  Edit: Here's an MS66 on Heritage with it too. You'll need a free login to see the larger images. https://coins.ha.com/itm/walking-li...bnail-071515Edited by kbbpll
09/01/2023 12:20 am
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I strongly disagree with the whizzing and harsh cleaning I've whizzed coins at work... *on my own time of course*  (I work hand finish on metal parts for aero as well as valves seats and satellite parts) we are not allowed to scratch parts or remove parent material, if we do we have to fix it or scrap the part entirely. I have images of surface as well as some other things I've discovered but wanted to get the whizzed thing cleared up once and for all. Besides I'll put my money where my mouth is and eat the cost I'm expecting damage on the details grade if anything  ( minor scrape on date and in field by IGWT) but I do think a light cleaning probably occured at one point if anyone was curious, micro scratches probably exist within the strong polishing marks...(having a hard time had to pull out a 20x loupe to determine a lot of what is visible is horrid polishing.) at any rate I'm not worried about the probable details grade I'm worried about strike and die prep along with die identification. Pics on surface and mini idea about dies in a sec or later I need to resize and write up my findings, it might have to wait till after work tomorrow. In short the au58 coin on pcgs is of strong intrest to me. The coin I have still looks more incorrect. |
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Raised areas under her right arm/stars
Posted 08/31/2023 07:47 am
