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Pillar of the Community
United States
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She didn't cost me a lot, and I like looking at her. What say you?   |
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Reverse is fantastic, but quite a bit of chatter on the obverse. 63
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Minor luster disruption on the obverse but should qualify as MS. Numerous small contact marks are consistent with a 63 grade. Nice type coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Reverse of these Barbers almost always look better. Lots of small obverse contact marks. I'm at MS62
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU58
If those hairlines don't dance in person I'm guessing ms62.
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Edited by NumismaticsFTW
09/03/2023 01:29 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Has been dipped I'd say but still gradable.
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Watch your top knot
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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According to a major TPG, "dipping is not cleaning". I'm still at 63 but 64 is not unreasonable for this series. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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09/03/2023 01:56 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU58. Due to all the tiny nicks and luster disruption in the right obverse field.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm at MS-63. Like those little die breaks across "GOD WE."
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm seeing some wear on the cheek and entire bottom of the neck. the right obv field is another circulation marker as well as the top of the wings and the middle tail feather. the reverse could be strike related but those areas on obv are not
AU58
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Some of you are spot on with the grade .... I'll reveal later. For those saying it's been dipped, can you describe what you see that leads to that conclusion? I ask because usually I am able to tell, but maybe I'm missing something. If it had been dipped, wouldn't that create a "false frost" on the areas where the luster has been rubbed off (say, in a pocket)? Here's a coin I recognize that's been dipped (although it was obviously more heavily circulated first):  On my coin, the areas with remaining luster look quite original to me, and those without it are the color I expect. I assumed this coin was clanging around in a mint bag for a few decades before spending some time with a "hands-on" collector. I've had the coin under my scope and there are no micro-abrasions one usually sees with cleaned coins, but I suppose a dip wouldn't leave those anyway. Edited by pristine2
09/03/2023 11:19 am
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Dipping in an acid solution creates a reaction that varies depending on how long the coin is dipped and the acid concentration/acid strength of the dipping solution. I agree that this coin appears to have been lightly dipped but not harshly to the point where it would details grade the coin. The telltale sign is that the coin is white and shows no indication of toning after 125 years. Silver oxidizes when in contact with oxygen producing a layer of silver oxide that is usually dark. Silver also tones/tarnishes when exposed to sulfur compounds that produce a layer of silver sulfide which progresses through colorful hues until it becomes dark in its end-state. The latter produces the bright, colorful toning that many collectors prize. The absence of oxidation or toning thus indicates that the coin was never exposed to oxygen or sulfur compounds or that it was dipped. Over 125 years, the latter is just much more likely as coins were seldom kept in air-tight conditions in the 19th and 20th centuries. I'll guess 62 on this one and very attractive.  It is much better struck than the 1906-s you showed us earlier as expected from a Philly Mint product. I think the strong strike likely from fresh early state dies (EDS), especially in the obverse is the best attribute of this coin. Edit: Meant 1906-O 25c. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
09/03/2023 4:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Her she is ...  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Kinda figured (pat pat) since I have one very similar. Mine's ANACS though.  |
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