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Had never heard of these, but I must admit they are kind of neat. I'd get a set for myself. The designs are really neat, and they are issued by the European Central Bank.

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I'd get a set for myself.
They are like post cards in that they depict various landmarks and topics of interest. Not legal tender, not issued by any government.
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Never intended for circulation.
Printed to familiarize the population to a new note issue.
Similar to pattern coins, but not necessarily scarce or rare.
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I get they are akin to a postcard, a souvenir item, as referenced by the printing. I see some on ebay sets of certain subjects aren't really cheap, the Middle East soccer set is offered at around $150.00, many other notes of various subjects are priced from a few dollars to $50+ per note. I see many are desired with the lowest serial numbers.

A few questions I now have...

Is there any kind of guide to these?
Any pricing information beyond ebay?
Dealers that specialize in them?

I understand they aren't legal tender, I mean they are Zero Euro notes. The central bank of Europe is the issuer, but not a government, yes. The quality seems to be on par with other real Euro banknotes. I would imagine there are a few collectors out there, otherwise they wouldn't be in production.
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Such banknotes have been issued for several years. People liked them, and the bank issues them more and more often. I think banks have found a very good way to make money on paper that is essentially worthless. They are more meant as a souvenir and positioned as a souvenir.
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The central bank of Europe is the issuer


No, the ECB is not the issuer. However, the ECB allows making them.
Any private company, organisation, museum, zoo, ectr. can place an order at Oberthur Technologies, France which produces them.
Zero Banknotes have been ''issued'' around the world including in countries that are not a member of the Eurozone.
Again, these Zero Euro ''Banknotes'' are neither ''banknotes'' nor legal tender.
The colour of all Zero ''Bank''notes is violett to distinguish them from the real Euro notes.

I do not want to post here a link to a dealer who sells them. But he currently has a list of 4320 Zero notes (not all available, of course) that have been made.
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Thanks for the info Redlock. I think I found that dealer in looking them up online. Any idea of a listing of them anywhere?
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I've just come back from a holiday in France and these are more popular over there than squashed pennies. You can get them at lots of tourist sites, often from vending machines. The monthly French coin magazine Monnaie Magazine sometimes has articles on them.

A German catalog of these notes exists:
https://www.amazon.fr/Katalog-0-Eur..._386646195X/
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Thanks NumisRob, that is exactly what I was looking for, now if it was only in a language I can understand better. The meat of the catalog is in French, German & English, DOH!

And any important information in the Catalog/Book, is in German, English, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, Italian, Finnish, and Slovakian. Wow.

I have cataloged all of the Portugal 0 Euros on my own with the help of some websites including the images of each and come up with a total of 229 from their first year of issue in 2017 through the current (2023) year.

Many seem to be exactly the same design except for an inventory number difference and the mintage quantity (most are 5000 or 3000), a few very low mintage's of 110 were noted on at least a single issue. Most older years are now sold out. Prices seem to be around 3.00 to 6.00 Euros each on available notes. That would average around $1300.00 to get a complete set (if indeed even possible) of just the entire run of Portugal 0 Euro notes (not accounting for the extra rare issues). Considering there are a lot of countries participating in this program this is not a cheap endeavor, for something worth nothing to start with. Though not unlike postcards or trading cards really.

Here is where I found all the Portugal 0 Euro note information:
https://www.eurosouvenirportugal.com/en/emission
Seems any company or individual can have them made but a minimum print run of 3000 is required. I'm sure that isn't exactly cheap to set up and purchase a full run.
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HISTORY OF THE EURO SOUVENIR

The concept of a Euro souvenir coin was founded in 1996 by Mr Richard Faille from France in cooperation with the "Monnaie de Paris".

His idea was to create a personalized coin that museums, sights, monuments and theme parks can offer to their visitors and collectors.

Over 60 million coins have been successfully sold in the past 18 years!

Since April 2015 there is the modern successor to the coin: The Euro Souvenir NOTE. In agreement and cooperation with a renowned printing house, Richard Faille has developed a personalized and high-quality "Euro Souvenir" note. The souvenir note is printed from long-standing partner company of the ECB and has the following security features: Watermark, copper stripes, simultaneous touch, hologram, transparent register, security background, invisible fluorescent ink and an individual serial number that is unique to each note.

In France there were 100 selected locations for the first series.

Since the beginning of 2015, the Euro Souvenir has been sold very successfully in France. Already now, the souvenir note is among the most frequently sold souvenir after the sale of postcards.

The personalized Euro Souvenir notes became available in Germany and Austria in 2016, and since then in most other EU member states.

I found these 50 countries produce them. (no guarantee this is all of them) The list for anyone interested, I typed it up and alphabetized it. (any errors are all mine).

1. Andorra
2. Armenia
3. Australia
4. Austria
5. Belgium
6. Brazil
7. Bulgaria
8. Canada
9. China
10. Croatia
11. Cuba
12. Czech Republic
13. Egypt
14. Estonia
15. Finland
16. France
17. Georgia
18. Germany
19. Great Britain
20. Greece
21. Haiti
22. India
23. Indonesia
24. Iraq
25. Ireland
26. Italy
27. Japan
28. Latvia
29. Lithuania
30. Luxembourg
31. Malta
32. Monaco
33. Netherlands
34. Norway
35. Peru
36. Poland
37. Portugal
38. Qatar
39. Romania
40. Russia
41. San Marino
42. Saudi Arabia
43. Slovakia
44. Slovenia
45. Spain
46. Sweden
47. Switzerland
48. Turkey
49. United Arabian Emirates
50. Vatican City
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Anybody and everybody that wants one made can have them made. Eventually there will be a million varieties.

If it hasn't happened already, they will start producing "limited edition" (restricted to so few copies) and hawk them on QVC at inflated prices since they are "so rare".
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I am quite interested in these, but I tend to agree, these are not worth what they sell for to begin with the secondary market seems to be really high priced, akin to beanie babies, or even diamonds...

one company makes them primarily, or at least controls the printing and distribution.

I'd love to get a bunch of these around a dollar or two each but not for $10-50 each. Still a really neat item that seems to be taken over with hype and greed on the consumer end, at least now, maybe they will go down in price in the future, I don't see them going up any more.
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Very popular collectable in Europe. Some get very expensive.
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