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Forum Dad
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Bedrock of the Community
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Interesting links, can't offer any input.
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Forum Dad
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I'm trying to document them as best I can but I can't afford an XRF.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Their specific gravity might shed light on their composition, Bobby.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Both coins look like they've been painted silver and it's bubbling off. Maybe it's just the images. Both appear to have the correct obverse hub type for the years - often counterfeiters use the same obverse for a variety of dates and end up with the wrong type for some years. Perhaps not very useful but those are my observations. They seem intended for circulation and not for collectors, but that's only a hunch.
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Pillar of the Community
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Those two fakes look like they were made using some kid's lead soldier kit.
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Forum Dad
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Bedrock of the Community
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This is out of my wheelhouse but I'm going to guess they are mold-cast copies or even electrotypes, probably tin-washed copper plating over a lead or bronze core. The edges would have been filed down to remove the seam; the reeding looks to be applied with a collar of some sort.
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Forum Dad
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Good info, I'll be adding a notes section to each one. They don't have to be factual as long as we're honest about guessing.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I'm trying to document them as best I can but I can't afford an XRF. If you have a local metal recycling plant chances are good they have one onsite. I recently needed access - can't afford one either - and found Pacific Steel charged $5 to pull the trigger. Might be worth calling around.
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Forum Dad
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Yeah, maybe. But I've got a bunch of them here.
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Pillar of the Community
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At this time I have our resident Moderator from another site checking if he has cataloged these two 50C types. Winston Zack. In terms of their metallurgy expect the top one in your post to be some type of White Metal (Sb/Sn/Cu or Pb alloy). Due to its weight differential downward and quite large BTW expect Sn to be in this assay. Its a CCC. Not a modern Chinese import. 100% certainty. The second piece has silvering which in many cases is a mercuric silver amalgamation which is normally over copper based alloy but in this case its a non-copper based alloy based on your photo. Again an excellent CCC period piece - 100% certainty. If Winston Zack our resident Moderator/Expert on U.S. Federal CCCs responds I will add the extra information here. John Lorenzo, Numismatist.
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Forum Dad
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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting. Pawn shops and jewelry stores might have an XRF.
I have taken coins and objects found metal detecting to a pawn shop with an XRF and they let me take an image of the screen to document the percentage of each metal in the alloy.
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