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Forum Dad
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Valued Member
United States
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Very interesting & 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll say it's counterfeit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There are no Doubled Die listings that match that. I'll have popcorn for breakfast.. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Rotation of second strike is inconsistent and no doubling on the reverse so I'd say definitely a fake.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978
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Pillar of the Community
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Whoa......... got a little lightheaded looking at that.
I'm certainly not an expert but IMHO the right side of Lincoln's profile looks off somehow.
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I'm struggling to see how this could be a legitimate error made through normal US mint operations. The doubling appears to be in three different directions: IN is CCW rotation, GOD WE TRUST is CCW and away from the rim, while the date and mintmark are toward the rim with varying degrees of CW rotation.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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The secondary devices seem to be rotated CCW, pivoting on a point somewhere south of LIBERTY. (An overlay would answer a lot of questions. Sure wish I could do them.) It's not a DDO since there is a secondary MM and it's consistent with the other doubling. (So it's not an RPM.) Now to delve into whether it's double struck. I would expect the secondary devices to be flattened by the full, stronger strike if it was double struck. Although it's an interesting piece, I would have to say it's fake. Possibly done with fake soft dies. EDIT: After seeing Spence's reply, I'm changing the pivot point to the collar below the bowtie.
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Edited by Petespockets55 11/03/2023 1:07 pm
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Forum Dad
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The owner says it's double struck. My immediate question, which the owner is very adept at ignoring, is how is a coin double struck on one side only?
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Bedrock of the Community
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I am thinking it's a fake.
Errers and Varietys.
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Moderator
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I'm thinking fake as well. Maybe Mike needs to get in on this fun  John1 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Second strike goes in different directions on date and IGWT.
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Quote: how is a coin double struck on one side only? Just spit-balling here, but I don't see how that is possible. So either the rev is double-struck, but so perfectly that there is not a single design element even slightly doubled or else a counterfeiter prepared a purposefully jenky obv die such as opined by @pete.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with bringing Mike in.
-makecents-
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Pillar of the Community
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Throw me a bag or two of popcorn, GMS5. 
-makecents-
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