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1943 S Mercury Dime - FS-511 Trumpet Tail?

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I would like to hear some opinions on this merc having FS-511 trumpet Tail mintmark or not. Thanks!

Link below to PCGS examples.

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...mages/145552

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 Posted 11/09/2023  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Onedollarbillnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good
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I guess. Is this something special?
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In a thread from a few years ago, merclover posted a pic of a "trumpet-tailed" S. Yours does not look like this published image.
http://goccf.com/t/369653
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does look like a "knob-tail"...
Thanks for the reference Hondo...
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It is definitely a trumpet tail. Congrats on the FS-511.

The first mark posted by merclover has a bang on the tail that makes it look flatter and broader than it really is. The second image appears to be an inverted ball serif S mint mark. To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a "knob tail" mint mark.

http://www.varietyvista.com/06%20Me...20Styles.htm

https://www.lincolncentforum.com/sa...mark-styles/
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1943-S-Mercury-Dime---FS-511-Trumpet-Tail?

As I suspected. The "knob tail" posted on that older thread is actually a 1945-S Mercury dime Inverted Mint Mark FS-504. You won't find that variety on PCGS (yet), but you can check out the images on Variety Vista:

Variety Vista 1945-S 10c FS-504
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As a side note, you should check for the die crack through the ERI of America. I think I can see it between E and R on your coin, but it's a little more than I can make my eyes see.

The FS-511 listing on Variety Vista looks to be a coin in really rough shape. You might consider offering Dr. Wiles a chance to upgrade his images. Yours looks like it also might be a considerably earlier die state.
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http://www.varietyvista.com/06%20Me...43SMMS41.htm
Yours does seem to have the ERI die crack, at least between ER.
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<<<To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a "knob tail" mint mark.>>>
Guess I didn't either till reading the clicked on post...oops!
Looking at the PCGS mint mark comparison...
"Note lack of serifs"
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...s-511/145552
You are correct Sir! We have a bingo we have a bingo we have a bingo...take it to a neutral tabel...
Nice eye and and good find!
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Thank you all for taking the time to help me out!

Here is a photo of the die crack area. This will help me in the future with this variety. I feel like I missed one of these FS-511's a few months ago in high grade - 66/67 fsb - because I was unsure. <kickself>

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Nice picture of the marker, and congratulations on picking a cherry. =)
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Nice find!
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I picked up another FS-511 Trumpet Tail. I go over a year and don't see any across all grades, then two pop up just weeks apart. PCGS MS65.

I thought I would leave this as another example for those who may reference this post in the future.


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Quote:
I picked up another FS-511 Trumpet Tail. I go over a year and don't see any across all grades, then two pop up just weeks apart. PCGS MS65.
Fantastic!
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