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I was at the mint website a few days back. I can't even remember what for, but was looking at the old production number lists they have available. I think it was when the topic came up about the production code numbers. So I happened to stop at the 1995 section. Most of us hardcore ASE collectors have at least one number memorized pretty well by now. The 1995W, should be 30,125, right? Well look at what the US Mint itself shows, 30,102? Wonder where they came up with that, it sure works seen like they'd be the final answer. 
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Most likely a case of final audited figures vs. un-audited sales figures from when the set closed its sales period,
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Gilly, Great Topic Again, I believe They would Know. Is it a Mistake, 2023 Red Book says, 1995-W (30,125 ). It Always has. Now Shown Above The United States Mint's Production Figures show Us All Different Numbers, After " 27+Years...  While COMMEMS is Probably Correct, I believe the Time Frame Since the Numbers were Kept, 30,125 is Problematic Now that Their Own Public Records show 30,102...... Apparently, Our 1995-W 10Th Anniversary Sets, Just Became More Valuable, Being There are Now, according to their records, Less Sets Out There !!!!!!  PS, We Die Hard American Silver Eagle Collectors Must Work Together, Nice Job GILLY !!!! Now to research it Myself.......
Edited by Morgans Dad 11/27/2023 09:42 am
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PS, Gilly, Maybe, Just Maybe, Today being The Open Vault at the US Mint, A 1995-W 10Th Anniversary American Gold Eagles Set, Including The Only way to secure The 1995 -W Proof Silver Eagle Set Today !!!!!!!! Imagine That !!!!!! Best Wishes To All Who Shop........ 
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If the numbers aren't 100% accurate within a VERY small degree (in this case, what? 23?) I don't worry about it, Now if that number wend BELOW the 2019-S ERP - THEN I would be VERY interested....
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Coin Mintage 2019-S ERP 29,909 1995-W PF 30,125 1995-W Less the 123 - 123 Actual Mintage Numbers 30,002 83 Coin Difference, Not a Far Stretch to say, That's Very, Very, Very Close.......
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where did ya get that number from Mike?
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Right, it's only 23 less, not 123. This thing is, 30,125 is the number ingrained in everyone's mind for 95W production, and evidently it's not the correct number.
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that does not answer my question - Where is this NEW info coming from?
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Quote: that does not answer my question - Where is this NEW info coming from? Oh! In that case you should be asking me. The US Mint website. They're the ones providing the information, even the 30,125. They changed it. No idea why or what drove the change, or even how long ago it was changed. Maybe 20 years ago. But the mint says 30,102. I'd go by that
Edited by Gilly 12/19/2023 08:33 am
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Quote: The 1995W, should be 30,125, right? Well look at what the US Mint itself shows, 30,102? Mandela Effect  I don't know. Yes all the original figures and articles showed 30,125. With a low mintage of 30,125 in one of the most widely collected modern U.S. coin series, attaining this piece will become a great challenge. The only way to obtain the low-mintage 1995-W Silver Eagle directly from the U.S. Mint would be by purchasing the entire Eagle proof set offered by the Mint that year. The Mint offered the four-gold piece set at $999 and as a free bonus buyers could choose to receive the special five-piece set, which included the 1995-W Silver Eagle. https://www.pcgs.com/news/1995-w-silver-eagle It also shows that in the american silver eagle mintage guide I posted before https://silvereagleguide.com/mintages/And the mint is now showing 30,102. It says "Figures are updated annually after all sales have been audited and finalized." and so would not have been expected to be changed after that. https://www.usmint.gov/about/produc...culatedyear=+1 to modern coin mart, who has the 30,102 figure. https://www.moderncoinmart.com/blog...intage-chartSo I guess only the mint can answer, but commems answer sounds reasonable other than the fact they normally do that at year end although maybe not in the same way during that timeperiod. And with such a major item perhaps commems or someone else would like to contact the mint to ask. I would think since this is before the mint was online (was that 1999?) and cumulative weekly records were not online as today its just a data error that was later discovered. People who actually cared for the american silver eagle back in 1995 usually couldnt afford the gold set to get it. And people who collected gold eagles treated silver eagles like trash. And silver was cheap cheap in regard to value at that time, so people didnt even want it all that much except diehard collectors.
Edited by datadragon 12/19/2023 4:41 pm
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As one who reads Coin News frequently, at least three times each month they cover current production figures of sets and comemoratives showing adjustments from the previous report. This would have applied in 1995 with the ASE, so my assumption is that after some time an actual figure would be realized. 30,102 seems to be that number, from my veiw point. Either way, I'm inclined to believe what Dearborn stated, adding that while still at the upper ends of the market I wouldn't expect a dramatic increase on a minor reduction from the original figure.
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I would sure like to be able to go back in time and buy an ounce of silver plus 1.85 ounces of gold for $999.
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To My Understamding, The 4-Gold coins were put together with the Silver 1995-W Eagle, basically receiving the ASE for Free ............... 
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Quote:To My Understamding, The 4-Gold coins were put together with the Silver 1995-W Eagle, basically receiving the ASE for Free ............... Correct, you could order with it without the ASE. Who would pass on the ASE? My guess would be those who have collected the 4 coin sets and wanted them the same. The set with the ASE was the 10th anniversary set, the 4 coin set was just the 4 coin set. So people may have wanted to just keep their 4 coin set collection purely just that.
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Thanks Gilly, I am wondering When the Mints will Produce Another Home Run Low Mintage Must Have, For This ASE Series......  PS, I know Collectors Must and Will Have ...... 
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