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Edited by DOCC 12/20/2023 12:31 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Very interesting.  I'm hoping that it's not a spot.
Errers and Varietys.
Edited by Errers and Varietys 12/20/2023 01:17 am
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Quote: Very interesting. Right, supposed to be incuse but it is raised. I know little about the topic at hand but assume what happens to a working die with a dropped filling can possibly happen to master die as well. That would transfer to the working hub making it permanent? Hopefully I got the logic/flow right and folks with more knowledge can chime in.
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I'll put it back under scope and post better close ups - it is not a spot.
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Terribly hard to get better close-ups because of the valley it s in. Absolutely raised but only slight. The center is not depressed, from what I can tell it is same level as rest of lapel. Contact point is not indented, almost looks fused to lapel. I find it hard to call it PMD, this roll was an original bank wrap, both ends were toned, and it is obviously uncirculated. At this point I'll just fess up - I have no clue so will not speculate further.  &   &  
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Bedrock of the Community
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Could be a Dropped Filling possibly. I did email Mike Diamond, so he can give his answer on this thread.
Errers and Varietys.
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Sure Mike will clarify us on this coin. What bother me it is the color of I will say SPOT. I will follows the outcome.
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I will wait for Mike,but I am thinking not a dropped letter. PMD of some kind.The coloring on it and around it makes me think maybe something like a drop of solder?Just thinking out loud though. John1 
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The very last pic looks kind of festive, like a Christmas tree inside.  Added: You may want to take a closer look at the reverse. There looks to be light concentric die scratches or possibly lathe lines.
-makecents-
Edited by -makecents- 12/20/2023 05:18 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Hobbyists usually call these "carbon spots" or "carb spots". It's a type of surface contaminant deposited after the strike and not an error.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Would a carbon spot be raised that much above the surface? John1 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Beats me. 
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We can put this one to bed unless anyone else has an opinion. I think lighting was darkening up the valley the anomaly lay in making it appear darker than it actually is. Here are a few more shots with direct light on the area. One thing that became apparent with direct light is the center is depressed so I gather raised surroundings are metal movement from a hit post die and pre wrap. The Christmas tree being the actual strike point. I'll throw in the Unknown Tube.    
Edited by DOCC 12/20/2023 08:43 am
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Here is what I think. I am normally wrong so this is only a thought. A drop of acid type material soften and bubbled up the metal making the ring then continuing to disintegrate making the "Christmas tree".
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Somebody playing around with a small soldering iron, perhaps.
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