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1959-D LMC - Struck Thru Dropped Filling?

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It would certainly be my first if so!

BU roll I bought 5-6 years ago, cracked it open with my kiddo this past weekend to have a peak. A few goodies and then this - a raised O on the Lapel. I took pixel measurements using the Obverse image, it matches the O in GOD to the decimal for length and width.

Thoughts? Do we have a winner here?


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Very interesting. I'm hoping that it's not a spot.
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Very interesting.


Right, supposed to be incuse but it is raised. I know little about the topic at hand but assume what happens to a working die with a dropped filling can possibly happen to master die as well. That would transfer to the working hub making it permanent?

Hopefully I got the logic/flow right and folks with more knowledge can chime in.
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I'll put it back under scope and post better close ups - it is not a spot.
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Terribly hard to get better close-ups because of the valley it s in. Absolutely raised but only slight. The center is not depressed, from what I can tell it is same level as rest of lapel. Contact point is not indented, almost looks fused to lapel.

I find it hard to call it PMD, this roll was an original bank wrap, both ends were toned, and it is obviously uncirculated. At this point I'll just fess up - I have no clue so will not speculate further.


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Could be a Dropped Filling possibly. I did email Mike Diamond, so he can give his answer on this thread.
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Sure Mike will clarify us on this coin. What bother me it is the color of I will say SPOT. I will follows the outcome.
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I will wait for Mike,but I am thinking not a dropped letter. PMD of some kind.The coloring on it and around it makes me think maybe something like a drop of solder?Just thinking out loud though.
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The very last pic looks kind of festive, like a Christmas tree inside.


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You may want to take a closer look at the reverse. There looks to be light concentric die scratches or possibly lathe lines.
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Hobbyists usually call these "carbon spots" or "carb spots". It's a type of surface contaminant deposited after the strike and not an error.
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Would a carbon spot be raised that much above the surface?
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Beats me.
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We can put this one to bed unless anyone else has an opinion. I think lighting was darkening up the valley the anomaly lay in making it appear darker than it actually is. Here are a few more shots with direct light on the area.

One thing that became apparent with direct light is the center is depressed so I gather raised surroundings are metal movement from a hit post die and pre wrap. The Christmas tree being the actual strike point.

I'll throw in the Unknown Tube.



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Here is what I think. I am normally wrong so this is only a thought. A drop of acid type material soften and bubbled up the metal making the ring then continuing to disintegrate making the "Christmas tree".
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Somebody playing around with a small soldering iron, perhaps.
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DOCC, did you check the reverse for lathe lines? You may still have an error coin. Here is a link to what I'm talking about and a couple closeups of your coin.

LINK https://www.error-ref.com/lathe_rin...incoln_cent/


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