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And Lastly A Fourth Punchmark Coin For Attribution Or Guidance, Thanks.

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Final one for today
AR Karshapana 15.7 x 12.7 x 2.0mm 3.25g

Starting clockwise from the top right I recognise the sun, an animal?, two small circles and a larger circle (an early bankers mark?), possibly a group of taurines, six armed symbol?....I'm lost.
On the back, I see at least 6 stamps?

Can anyone narrow this down further for me? Again, without access to Gupta & Hardaker, it's mission impossible at this stage.

Many thanks in advance.
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@ttk, my recollection is that Ron used to know these old Indian pieces pretty good. Maybe ping @echizento to see what he has to say.
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Thanks Spence, will do.
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My Gupta and Hardaker has been packed away so I wouldn't be of any help with the type. However I believe this coin is most likely attributed to the Reign of Ashoka.
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My Gupta and Hardaker has been packed away so I wouldn't be of any help with the type. However I believe this coin is most likely attributed to the Reign of Ashoka.


Thanks echizento, that's a step in the right direction, cheers.
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It seems to be GH 488, series Va. Interestingly, while all these hundreds of varieties have some form of the six-armed symbol, only one has arms shaped like Greek Φ. The visible portions of the other symbols match 488 as well. GH considers series V "probably the first issue of the Mauryan dynasty from 321 BC". None of the 600+ Maghada-Mauryan punchmarked varieties are assigned to specific rulers, however.
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It seems to be GH 488, series Va. Interestingly, while all these hundreds of varieties have some form of the six-armed symbol, only one has arms shaped like Greek Φ. The visible portions of the other symbols match 488 as well. GH considers series V "probably the first issue of the Mauryan dynasty from 321 BC". None of the 600+ Maghada-Mauryan punchmarked varieties are assigned to specific rulers, however.


Very interesting, Kushanshah, thank you very much for the attribution.
I first sought out a few examples of PMC's out of curiosity, mainly to pad out my ecclectic collection of ancient and medieval coinage from the sub-continent. However, the more I delve into the attribution of these PMC's the more I am becoming sucked into the rabbit hole.
I have been reading some published papers by Srini Kalyanaraman (available on Academia), one titled "Punch-marked coin symbols of ancient Indian mints are wealth resource catalogues, Indus Script hieroglyphs" where he postulates that the symbols can be interpreted with rebuses (much like preceding a picture of an owl with the letter H to form the word "howl". Extremely simplified, but he then works out that the vast majority of PMC symbols are related to metal working, furnaces, metalsmiths, various metal ores such as magnetite etc.
His studies also include decoding the Indus scripts as well as debunking previous deciphering attempts.
So (taking a breath) I wondered if his works are well regarded in the numismatic world, or indeed if they are regarded at all?
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